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Post by suefb on Mar 26, 2024 15:28:09 GMT -5
I wasn't getting personal but just TELLING you. I see your tweets, often, as we clearly both scroll through Hugh mentions, a lot. I don't engage much on "X", but it has seemed to me that in your efforts to support Hugh by commenting against DEI and for "anti-woke" efforts - and in simple bite-sized comments, which never helps - you have been seeming to align yourself (and, in a certain way, Hugh) with this kind of more extreme element. Anyway, that's how I ended up here. That and your insistence on amplifying Mike Zeroh, which has sent some folks who read your posts here over to me because they are frightened and concerned that the film is going to be a disaster.
No, that is BS.
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2024 15:43:23 GMT -5
Ha-I never comment on DEI on tweets. I support Deadpool & Wolverine. I don't even comment on Mike Zeroh - I share his messages here for whatever it's worth -- and I say that "for whatever it's worth". Are you saying that what Ryan et al are doing are anti-DEI because they do not agree with Iger & Feige? They had an approved script (and some Ryan 4th wall comments typical of his Deadpool movies) - that is what is being revised to suit Iger's direction.
The only comment about DEI that I made was to say that it should not be applied to the extreme and if not consistent with the spirit of artistic integrity. That was why I used the example of South Pacific. And there was nothing controersial with what i had pointed out.
And I responded to a comment on Kevin Feige --
I went through my tweets -- what are you talking about that I am supporting anti-DEI??
Having been on the most senior level of management, one must weigh issues not with personal preferences but with an almost-Solomon like wisdom. Look at both sides! Then make a decision! DEI is a good and wise rule -- but like many other things in life, it should not be carried to the extreme! Why are you reading more to what I actually mean or indicate.
Don't confuse with what I write here -- I am incensed if the reports about the movie Deadpool & Wolverine is not going to be successful & if the rumors about forcing DEI are true. And since this is a semi-private forum - I will speak more frankly but politely.
I dod not know that you follow my tweets. Lol! I thought Jackman's Landing blocked me - so why would you want to read what I write?
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Post by suefb on Mar 26, 2024 15:56:51 GMT -5
Ha-I never comment on DEI on tweets. I support Deadpool & Wolverine. I don't even comment on Mike Zeroh - I share his messages here for whatever it's worth -- and I say that "for whatever it's worth". Are you saying that what Ryan et al are doing are anti-DEI because they do not agree with Iger & Feige? They had an approved script (and some Ryan 4th wall comments typical of his Deadpool movies) - that is what is being revised to suit Iger's direction. The only comment about DEI that I made was to say that it should not be applied to the extreme and if not consistent with the spirit of artistic integrity. That was why I used the example of South Pacific. And there was nothing controersial with what i had pointed out. And I responded to a comment on Kevin Feige -- I went through my tweets -- what are talking about that I am supporting anti-DEI?? Don't confuse that with what I write here -- I am incensed if the reports about the movie Deadpool & Wolverine is not going to be successful if the rumors about forcing DEI are true. And since this is a semi-private forum - I will speak more frankly but politely. I dod not know that you follow my tweets. Lol! I thought Jackman's Landing blocked me - so why would you want to read what I write? Jo I don't follow your tweets! I just scroll through mentions of Hugh, as do you, so I can't help but see your frequent replies to others. I've seen you mentioning DEI and "woke" and Iger and Feige etc etc several times lately, and also about these supposed conflicts that are clearly based on Zeroh's "inside info", and you post his videos HERE. JL blocked you because you kept piggy-backing on our tweets with well-known anecdotes, and it just got tiresome. I also happen to run the Hugh's IG Stories profile, and I'm glad to see you find use of it here. I don't do that for publicity but just because it's a way to keep a record of his Stories after they disappear. |
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2024 16:02:56 GMT -5
Then read all my tweets again - I do not discuss DEI there, save for a polite comment or 2. I was an early contributor to Jackman's Landing long before you guys got there - I even know some of the early contributors and met some of them. I was also a contributor to the Walk of Fame project. I used to send articles to JL in the past-- and I thought adding more stories to what JL was posting was only being helpful. If that is how you felt - why not tell me that you would rather that I did not reply to your tweets then. No I do not use your IG Stories profile. There is a twitter account that reposts the JL Stories and that is the account I follow. Or is that you - let me check? twitter.com/hugh_igIf it is you -- thank you, then! Re Zeroh's tweets -- I do read the comments on those uploads & find some interesting -- and some do post sensible comments. Besides I never said that Zeroh is absolutely 100% right. I say "for whatever it's worth" . You have once posted that you do not believe them. Fine! I never said that you should not be followed. If all the troubles he mentions have no basis at all -- then fine -- we will have a movie that will be a true crowd-pleaser! Jo |
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Post by suefb on Mar 26, 2024 16:12:33 GMT -5
That is indeed me. And I know well your history of supporting Hugh and JL, and I think your support of Hugh is highly admirable, if sometimes a lot. I tend to believe Hugh supports the on-going generational effort to increase representation in all parts of society and would never use the term "woke" as a pejorative.
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2024 16:18:49 GMT -5
Yes, Hugh has been known to be an advocate of many things from Day 1.
No disagreement there.
I do fully appreciate what DEI is all about - but like many good things in life -- sometimes, one must not use it to the extreme -- that is what I do not subscribe to.
I would not mind a POC Wolverine but I would not like a female Batman. Lol - I just saw an animated clip of a female Batman and I actually said loudly " Eeekkkkkkk!". How could they -- after all those years of seeing Batman being ably reprsented by competent & attractive male actors -- why is there a need to have a female Batman. What will they insist on next-- a man in the pangs of childbirth pains??
Just kidding.
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2024 17:56:06 GMT -5
Let me emphasize this --
I have posted the Mike Zeroh messages -- for whatever they are worth. I have never said they are unvarnished truth!
They are his supposed knowledge of what is happening. I am not saying it is gospel truth -- call it gossip or rumor or whatever they are. Or even reading for entertainment purposes.
But what I have wondered about - if they are all untrue and have absolutely no hint of what is happening -- why has not DISNEY or their legal representation protested them legally speaking or have them deleted or whatever legal means they have to defend the Disney side.
If you feel wary of these messages - do not read them!
If the gossip ( they are gossip!) -- is not true -- hopefully, the planned reshoots are not contentious issues.
If there is a hint of truth -- let us hope they will be resolved very well and for the success of the film.
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2024 18:08:04 GMT -5
Btw, this is my most recent best-liked post -- 25 LIKES! I tweet other stuff, too  Jo |
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Post by suefb on Mar 27, 2024 10:38:36 GMT -5
But what I have wondered about - if they are all untrue and have absolutely no hint of what is happening -- why has not DISNEY or their legal representation protested them legally speaking or have them deleted or whatever legal means they have to defend the Disney side.Jo I did address this earlier. Zeroh and his ilk are a nuisance but honestly not worth Disney fighting them since it would only bring MORE attention to that content, not to mention that any lawsuit would likely fail because it gets into the whole realm of "freedom of speech". Sure, Fox News was sued by Dominion voting machines and others - and lost - because their widely-seen and repeated lies directly resulted in substantial damage to the company's brand. I doubt Disney would try to make the claim that Youtuber Mike Zeroh with his 362K folowers has damaged their financial value as a company. As for reshoots, they are quite common and don't necessarily indicate a major problem. Yes, The Greatest Showman reshoots were substantial and changed the film in significant ways - but resulted in a better-received end product. Logan also had reshoots, but it doesn't seem like they changed the final version in a major way. |
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Post by jo on Mar 27, 2024 11:37:55 GMT -5
Let's hope the original creative intentions for DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE do come out as the trio (Ryan/Hugh/Shawn) had envisioned, hoping that Disney also appreciate that the kind of movies the XMen universe launched have a unique appeal.
I am familiar with the Greatest Showman filming progress because a consultant of the movie project actually befriended me (found me on BWWorld - LOL - I still have all the notes sent to me) and shared with me on a regular basis what was happening ( sharing messages with me for 2 years). One will be surprised at how behind the scenes sometimes are contrary to public impressions.
Btw, One Fox insider ( no longer with Fox) eventually shared this : The actual business results was 5-6 times what was originally expected by the studio.
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Post by suefb on Mar 27, 2024 15:00:20 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to suggest you weren't familiar with it. I was simply pointing out an example that the TGS reshoots - which were quite heavily detailed in interviews and the accompanying book, maybe? There was a LOT of "public" information about it, eventually - ended up being a net positive in terms of the outcome for the film.
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Post by jo on Mar 27, 2024 15:04:42 GMT -5
Not interested to pursue this anymore.
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Post by suefb on Mar 27, 2024 15:31:03 GMT -5
Not interested to pursue this anymore. Jo Neither am I. |
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Post by jo on Mar 29, 2024 9:55:17 GMT -5
After what he did to Hugh with Apocalypse ( changing the leadership role from Wolverine-Hugh to Mystique-JenniferLawrence) who is he fooling?? It was only Bryan who realized how disappointed Hugh was over the change ( Hugh did not promote the movie at all, except eventually for the cameo addition) ... and decided to add that long cameo of Weapon X! But Simon is likely trying to mend his fences  Jo |
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Post by jo on Apr 1, 2024 8:33:04 GMT -5
It's April 1 -- so take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by jo on Apr 1, 2024 8:36:28 GMT -5
Since it was posted on Mar 31, maybe it is not an April Fool's joke  |
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2024 10:40:02 GMT -5
*Who will portray "Daken"?
*Will this Daken be a good person...and eventually carry his father's legacy?
*Is there a chance to see a grown-up Laura (X-23) even if there is conflict with LOGAN
*Will either become the MCU "Wolverine" without recasting the Jackman version?
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2024 11:16:14 GMT -5
Wasn't there a rumor of a trailer on April 11?
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Post by jo on Apr 9, 2024 3:01:34 GMT -5
New Coca Cola commercial featuring Marvel heroes!
You can spot Wolverine at 1'12 - 1'13'' - very brief but the yellow suit & cowl is easy to spot...
then Deadpool eating popcorn later on.
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