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Post by chessie on Nov 9, 2012 0:49:55 GMT -5
This latest trailer gives me chills each time I watch it. It was hard to imagine how the play would be adapted to the screen, but it's becoming clearer with each small glimpse we're "allowed" to see. It's very impressive. Just trying to figure some way to get out of Christmas dinner. Carol
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 2:22:13 GMT -5
Some thoughts on the trailer from the Christian Science Monitor -- www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2012/1108/Les-Miserables-international-trailer-shows-almost-every-cast-member-singingExcerpts -- >>>Les Misérables certainly looks strikingly different than most of the other Broadway musical-turned films released in recent years, thanks to some picturesque visuals and unusual camera angles conjured up by director of photography Danny Cohen (who received an Oscar nod for his similar work on King’s Speech). The singing is raw and unrefined, but that absence of pitch-perfection seems in keeping with the overall gritty design of the film – not just in terms of cinematography, but also the costume and production design by Paco Delgado (The Skin I Live In) and Eve Stewart (another King’s Speech alum), respectively. However, Hooper’s approach might divide the Les Miz fan base between those who approve of his attempt to give the show real cinematic flavor – while preserving the emotional impact of the music – and those who would’ve preferred there to be more emphasis on making the songs percussive and booming (like an excellent recorded version of the stage show). Of course, we will have to wait for the actual film to see if that’s indeed the case.<<< This is a film adaptation - not a clone of the stage musical Jo
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Post by birchie on Nov 9, 2012 8:36:32 GMT -5
For Birchie...and for everyone Where did Daily Mail get the above clip? I can't remember seeing it in the trailer. Must be the Brit connection in London ;D Jo The confrontation scene is one of my favorite images from the trailer. Hit pause on the word "bud" when Russell sings "we will nip it in the bud". I did a screen capture and removed the white dot from the middle. It was one of the pix I was trying to post, unsuccessfully. The other one I was trying to post is the final image of the smiling JVJ holding the smiling Cosette. I did a screen capture and it is now my desktop wallpaper. (alternating with the confrontation) It's a beautiful picture and for fans of the book...she's holding the doll!!!! So I guess we'll see JVJ give her the doll after they leave the Thenardiers. Sue
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 15:48:30 GMT -5
Unless I was too excited to see the trailer clearly for the first 20 times or so ( that I have rewatched it) -- now they have added the panoramic shot of Paris waking up at dawn in the official trailer! This is the OFFICIAL YouTube upload ( clearer!) -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvHzCLP6ugJo
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 16:42:21 GMT -5
Based on this -- www.lesmis.com/htmlemails/lesmis-2012-11-07-extra-matinee/build/index-extramatinee-web.html" There will be no evening performance at the Queen’s Theatre London on Wednesday 5 December as the cast are going to the world premiere of the Les Misérables movie!" the London premiere is on December 5, 2012!Presumably this will be the world premiere!! Very nice gesture to have the present stage cast invited to the film premiere. I hope the original cast have also been invited! Jo
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Post by birchie on Nov 9, 2012 17:16:05 GMT -5
Unless I was too excited to see the trailer clearly for the first 20 times or so ( that I have rewatched it) -- now they have added the panoramic shot of Paris waking up at dawn in the official trailer! This is the OFFICIAL YouTube upload ( clearer!) -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvHzCLP6ugJo I'm glad after all the fun and games of the last couple days that they finally have the official one up. It is a much clearer version. Just beautiful. I was wondering what your thoughts are on the placement of the Paris panorama? It seems to me that it's placed just before Cosette's One Day More line which shows her looking out her window. I'm wondering if they changed the way she is singing her part since that's not where she is in the screenplay. Any thoughts? Sue
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 17:31:51 GMT -5
As someone said on one message board, it is hard to tell from a trailer what the proper sequences of scenes are...as they could just be mixing them up to provide a more compact telling of the plot in no more than 2 '30". Sometimes the context of the scene sequence could be misleading. In the trailer, the Paris panorama at dawn is placed before Cosette sings...and is presumably watched by an awestruck Marius ( and a slightly jealous Eponine). Not too sure that those two live sequences will come after each other because One Day More for Marius is presumably sung with him already knowing Cosette. A little misleading sequence. What I find amusing is how many "definitive" conclusions have been made on so many message boards/feedback sections based on those 2 and a half minutes ;D...So many condemnatory and so many disdainful comments around the place. But most of them are coming from musical theatre purists ...I wonder what they will do - ignore the movie - LOL! You guys in the USA only have 45 days to go (it's already Nov 9 here) ... While I still have 66 sleeps to dream with Jo
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Post by njr on Nov 9, 2012 17:45:04 GMT -5
You guys in the USA only have 45 days to go (it's already Nov 9 here) ... Jo It's been Nov. 9th here for almost 18 hours! ;D Did you mean it's already Nov. 10th where you are?
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 17:47:32 GMT -5
C'est correct - it is Nov 10 on this side of the world. ;D But re the supposedly official upload -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvHzCLP6ugThis is confusing - even the official upload has been taken down Jo
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Post by birchie on Nov 9, 2012 18:17:29 GMT -5
As someone said on one message board, it is hard to tell from a trailer what the proper sequences of scenes are...as they could just be mixing them up to provide a more compact telling of the plot in no more than 2 '30". Sometimes the context of the scene sequence could be misleading. In the trailer, the Paris panorama at dawn is placed before Cosette sings...and is presumably watched by an awestruck Marius ( and a slightly jealous Eponine). Not too sure that those two live sequences will come after each other because One Day More for Marius is presumably sung with him already knowing Cosette. A little misleading sequence. What I find amusing is how many "definitive" conclusions have been made on so many message boards/feedback sections based on those 2 and a half minutes ;D...So many condemnatory and so many disdainful comments around the place. But most of them are coming from musical theatre purists ...I wonder what they will do - ignore the movie - LOL! You guys in the USA only have 45 days to go (it's already Nov 9 here) ... While I still have 66 sleeps to dream with Jo I must be going senile! I actually answered this post a while ago including the fact that the new trailer was taken off that LesMiserablesFilm YouTube channel and I must have forgotten to hit the post reply button. Anyway if anyone wants the prettier HD version, with the boat & the Paris panorama that was up there briefly I had downloaded it and have now uploaded it here: www.mediafire.com/download.php?rw7zi1x1ft1s208PS: The trailer vs movie comments, that trailers don't always represent what we see in the movie, are often from me, but in this case (Paris panorama) I was merely doing a bit of speculating. I don't think the sequence with Marius & Eponine is part of that though. Note to self, hit post reply button. ;D Sue
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Post by birchie on Nov 9, 2012 18:24:55 GMT -5
Okay, now it's back up on the LesMiserablesFilm YouTube channel. This is getting ridiculous! Sue
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 18:46:02 GMT -5
Back up again ??!!! Universal is getting as dizzy as the most fanatic of Les Mis fans - LOL! Birchie -- I have been occasionally posting on the Movie Awards board, every chance I see to support Hugh and Les Mis. You may want to add something to this thread www.imdb.com/board/bd0000005/nest/206749095?p=1I think Universal owes giving him BUZZ with a capital BBBBBBBBBB! Except for that EW cover ( which I may not be able to get because I understand it is meant for regular subscribers?) and as part of the overall Les Mis hype on other print media and the extended look feature, there isn't much they have said or shown about their only "lead" in the film! Hrmmphh!!! As you and a few others have observed they don't even give him a chance to soar in song in the trailers, only talk-sings or soft openings to a song. Some people even think he is not a strong singer based on the teaser/trailer. They have given Russell the spot for a few seconds of supposedly powerful singing, why not Hugh?? Although my response on the IMDB thread looks at another angle on why he could please the AMPAS voters! >>>Based on the full trailer, Hugh seems to be going for a reinterpretation of the Valjean role, a more realistic take on an essentially dramatic role. Maybe this is what the Academy may prefer - that he competes with the likes of DDL, Phoenix, Hawkes, Denzel, et al, as a dramatic actor! That he sings and sings well ( I have seen him in live performances a number of times, including a very powerful rendition of the Soliloquy from Carousel) will be the great bonus. But no one will say that he is just " a musical leading man" if he nails the dramatic aspects of the portrayal. He has the acting range for it!<<<Jo (always complaining)
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Post by birchie on Nov 9, 2012 20:15:51 GMT -5
Back up again ??!!! Universal is getting as dizzy as the most fanatic of Les Mis fans - LOL! Birchie -- I have been occasionally posting on the Movie Awards board, every chance I see to support Hugh and Les Mis. You may want to add something to this thread www.imdb.com/board/bd0000005/nest/206749095?p=1I think Universal owes giving him BUZZ with a capital BBBBBBBBBB! Except for that EW cover ( which I may not be able to get because I understand it is meant for regular subscribers?) and as part of the overall Les Mis hype on other print media and the extended look feature, there isn't much they have said or shown about their only "lead" in the film! Hrmmphh!!! As you and a few others have observed they don't even give him a chance to soar in song in the trailers, only talk-sings or soft openings to a song. Some people even think he is not a strong singer based on the teaser/trailer. They have given Russell the spot for a few seconds of supposedly powerful singing, why not Hugh?? Although my response on the IMDB thread looks at another angle on why he could please the AMPAS voters! >>>Based on the full trailer, Hugh seems to be going for a reinterpretation of the Valjean role, a more realistic take on an essentially dramatic role. Maybe this is what the Academy may prefer - that he competes with the likes of DDL, Phoenix, Hawkes, Denzel, et al, as a dramatic actor! That he sings and sings well ( I have seen him in live performances a number of times, including a very powerful rendition of the Soliloquy from Carousel) will be the great bonus. But no one will say that he is just " a musical leading man" if he nails the dramatic aspects of the portrayal. He has the acting range for it!<<<Jo (always complaining) Your wish is my command m'lady! I wandered over and posted this: Guess I'll weigh in here too...First, Colm isn't my favorite JVJ...shocking I know.
Re: Best Actor however...I think Hugh will shine in this role. It will demonstrate his dramatic acting which has for so long been overlooked, as well as his singing/theater chops. Jean Valjean is a wonderfully dramatic role and from the bits I've seen in the trailer, TV spots and extended first look, Hugh is portraying him as the multifaceted character he is.
I like the nuanced way he starts One Day More. This is a man who is tired of being pursued and I think the way we hear Hugh sing those first few lines demonstrates that. I expect that as the emotions build each One Day More line will sound stronger & more emotional building to the chorus at the end. In the trailer I was also struck by how ferocious he looked in the confrontation scene with Russell's character, Javert, and then how soft and loving he looked meeting little Cosette for the first time. And at the beginning we first meet the angry, beaten but unbowed Jean Valjean. I don't see how the other contenders can seriously offer competition against a role like that and what I suspect will be a performance to match. Sue
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 20:27:28 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 21:35:31 GMT -5
Feature on Eddie Redmayne in FLAUNT magazine ... and he has something nice to say about the leadership of Hugh in the cast -- flaunt.com/features/124/our-work-and-why-we-do-it-eddie-redmayneCourtesy of a Hugh fansite on the zoomed in portion -- >>>Redmayne moves rather quickly into the experience of playing Richard II in Michael Grandage’s Donmar staged production of Richard II. Redmayne hesitates. So much history concerns the relationship between authority and subject. The modes of this relationship manifest in various social and professional situations. Take, for instance, Redmayne suggests, the relationship between an actor and his role. Richard II is a juicy role, a massive undertaking, and with it comes a lot of responsibility. Redmayne: And I asked Michael, who had enormous amount of faith in me, “Now that I’m Richard, what do I do to lead the cast?” [Grandage] says to me, “Eddie, you’re playing the king. The thing does it for you.” And that’s sort of the thing with actors in Hollywood. The number one on the call sheet basically dictates the atmosphere of the film set. Les Mis was kind of extraordinary because Hugh Jackman is a movie star. Incredibly talented, ridiculously hardworking, and unbelievably generous. I remember he was shooting in February in England in Portsmith, in water in 40-degree weather, with a hundred extras behind him. I think the extras were about to walk off set, like, “I’m not doing this.” It was extraordinarily miserable. But because Hugh was up front, in front of all the guys, take after take after take, again, they managed to stay on.<<<Jo
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Post by jo on Nov 9, 2012 21:44:09 GMT -5
This was where they were filming, at the Chatham Dockyards in February weather -- during breaks you can see the convict/cast huddled on the steps, with blankets and maybe something hot to drink! Jo
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Post by jo on Nov 10, 2012 17:15:36 GMT -5
A lot of discussions on message boards, including theatre boards. As expected, some musical theatre purists insist that the singing in the film should be as it was onstage Here comes a breath of fresh air, after some putdowns of the full trailer by some rabid musical theatre fans ( including someone called My Oh My), on BroadwayWorld -- >>> jnb9872 joined:11/24/08 New Les Miz Trailer Posted: 11/10/12 at 11:16am Fortunately, I am heartened that, from everything I've seen, the creatives working on Les Mis all disagree with My Oh My. Musicals on stage and Musicals on screen are different beasts entirely. The willing suspension of disbelief is dramatically altered when you are watching someone live, in the flesh, in front of you, and over-dramatic vocalizations are more obviously impressive and appreciated. On screen, such bloviating stage performing can be embarrassingly overcooked and take an audience out of the much more difficult suspension of disbelief in a dark room looking at a picture on a flat wall. Film acting requires emotional nuance on a smaller-scale not required on stage, where projecting to cheap seats is rewarded. One could argue that movie musicals live and die based on how closely they observe this key difference. (Hence, Chicago, which is generally considered one of the more successful adaptations, because it found a narrative device to excuse its theatricality.) Les Mis is a score that needs to be nurtured, not excused, and to do so requires finessing it to the nature of the screen. On that scale, everything I've seen so far shows me this film is going to understand that perhaps more than any other major movie musical I've ever seen from Hollywood.
Read more: broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?page=2&thread=1053151&dt=43#ixzz2BrNx35O6<<<Jo
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Post by birchie on Nov 10, 2012 17:51:43 GMT -5
I love this one and I couldn't agree more about Hugh! www.vulture.com/2012/11/new-les-miz-trailer-lets-evaluate-every-actor.htmlHugh Jackman Listen to the way Jackman whispers "destiny" — here is a man who respects the power of "One Day More," who understands the hope implied in that twinkling intro. Hugh is the Broadway vet in this cast, obviously, and we had little doubt about his ability to power through the emotional moments like "Bring Him Home," but he is pulling those chains with anger, which is equally important when playing a man imprisoned for stealing some goddamn bread. Respect to Hugh's anger.
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Post by jo on Nov 10, 2012 18:23:54 GMT -5
Just read the complete piece, Sue Vulture is actually a fan of Les Miserables and I do remember their saying that Hugh Jackman would be slam-dunk casting, if Hooper knew what he was doing ( this was at the time when it was first reported he was in talks). www.vulture.com/2011/06/hugh_jackman_les_miserables.htmlWith your permission, may I reprint the whole Vulture piece, in case it gets pulled down www.vulture.com/2012/11/new-les-miz-trailer-lets-evaluate-every-actor.htmlAs to the Hugh comments - Vulture is recognizing that Hugh is displaying not just his singing prowess in this movie, but that what we are seeing is excellent dramatic acting ( i.e., the anger showing on his face as he pulls on the rope). Jo
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Post by birchie on Nov 10, 2012 19:50:06 GMT -5
Just read the complete piece, Sue Vulture is actually a fan of Les Miserables and I do remember their saying that Hugh Jackman would be slam-dunk casting, if Hooper knew what he was doing ( this was at the time when it was first reported he was in talks). www.vulture.com/2011/06/hugh_jackman_les_miserables.htmlWith your permission, may I reprint the whole Vulture piece, in case it gets pulled down <snip> As to the Hugh comments - Vulture is recognizing that Hugh is displaying not just his singing prowess in this movie, but that what we are seeing is excellent dramatic acting ( i.e., the anger showing on his face as he pulls on the rope). Jo That's fine, I never think about things like that but it's very logical given the nature of the Internet! Guess that makes you my Mr. Spock. I like what they said about all of it except that they really didn't say much about Sam except for the Taylor Swift references! That link you provided is to a story that I don't remember at the time. They certainly were high on him "perfect casting" and they thought the same as I did at the time that he should play JVJ & not Javert. People still seem to bring up the casting and suggest it should have been the other way around but, singing notwithstanding, I can't really picture RC as JVJ at all. I'm glad saner minds prevailed! Sue
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Post by mamaleh on Nov 10, 2012 23:47:46 GMT -5
Anne Hathaway's opening bit hosting SNL had her leading the cast in their version of "One Day More," in which each cast member described what they would do tomorrow after a long, hard week preparing the show. I liked that it was a promo for the movie, even if the lyrics were somewhat uninspired. Afterward, the first commercial was the LES MIZ trailer.
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Post by jo on Nov 10, 2012 23:53:49 GMT -5
Thanks, Ellen Many opening threads on IMDB and, except for saying that the theme is One Day More, there was no mention of how they spoofed it. Jo
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Post by jo on Nov 11, 2012 1:08:29 GMT -5
But was what that flag at the end Looks Italian ;D
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