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Post by birchie on Apr 2, 2013 17:17:06 GMT -5
Naomi would be good actually I thought of Nicole first-Benedict there is that gorgeous black guy on Greys just a thought have to think about it! There are a couple gorgeous black guys on Greys  Do you mean the rich kid who just got appointed to run things...I am presently annoyed with that story line but I think he's too young to be Benedict anyway. The guy Baily married who isn't on much any more would be a good 'type' and I think he's the right age... Sue |
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Post by carouselkathy on Apr 2, 2013 19:25:48 GMT -5
The book is written in first person. I wonder how they'll handle the screenplay? Many of the old film noir classics were in first person, but I can't recall any that have been successful recently. Maybe there have been a few that I can't recall, but it will be very interesting to see what they do with this one.
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Post by birchie on Apr 2, 2013 19:48:16 GMT -5
The book is written in first person. I wonder how they'll handle the screenplay? Many of the old film noir classics were in first person, but I can't recall any that have been successful recently. Maybe there have been a few that I can't recall, but it will be very interesting to see what they do with this one. I wondered about that too. I think they will do away with the first person. As you say it isn't done successfully very often...at least these days. Unless they get an exceptional screenwriter it's too easy to botch it up. Sue |
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Post by jo on Apr 2, 2013 21:43:36 GMT -5
Sunset Boulevard was one, with William Holden and Gloria Swanson.
I never saw DRIVE, the movie where Ryan Gosling replaced Hugh, please correct me if I am wrong -- but wasn't the original source, the book, written in the first person? Did they do the same thing for the film?
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Post by jo on May 8, 2013 6:59:34 GMT -5
My copy of SIX YEARS arrived only today ( I used the least expensive shipping option -- hard cover books are heavy!) and I finished reading it -- there are possible SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS in my post:
*I am a fan of thrillers, so I enjoyed reading through the exciting twists and turns ( although towards the end, it became a bit more predictable). There is something that seems like the Da Vinci Code about it, because there is intrigue and mystery surrounding the most uncharacteristic hero around which the storyline revolved, except the mystery and the places involved make it sound more like an interesting whodunit than a Bourne-like or a Bond-like thriller. Corben has written novels with Europe as the setting -personally, I would have prefered a Europe-based thriller for Hugh - I was not too keen about the mobster scenario denouement ( sounds like Law and Order and other procedural dramas) -- they could have pursued the international flavor earlier hinted at .
*Sue -- I was practically grinning when I read about the setting. Western Massachusetts! I can almost picture the setting could be Amherst College, or Uof Massachusetts ( my school) or Williams College. When I read the words " mixers" and "commons" - I was taken back to that time when I spent time in that lovely area in the Pioneer Valley. I hope if they ever come to film this, that it takes place in the fall.
*Will the role suit Hugh? It is a bit laid-back for his kind of movie persona -- maybe the screenplay adaptation will put a little more zing into his role? The action scenes will be right along his film background.
*Who might make an excellent Natalie Avery ( although the role is not big - more of a support role) -- I would like to see Rachel Weisz, if she would be keen to reunite with Hugh.
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Post by birchie on May 8, 2013 8:37:58 GMT -5
<snip> *Sue -- I was practically grinning when I read about the setting. Western Massachusetts! I can almost picture the setting could be Amherst College, or Uof Massachusetts ( my school) or Williams College. When I read the words " mixers" and "commons" - I was taken back to that time when I spent time in that lovely area in the Pioneer Valley. I hope if they ever come to film this, that it takes place in the fall. *Will the role suit Hugh? It is a bit laid-back for his kind of movie persona -- maybe the screenplay adaptation will put a little more zing into his role? The action scenes will be right along his film background. *Who might make an excellent Natalie Avery ( although the role is not big - more of a support role) -- I would like to see Rachel Weisz, if she would be keen to reunite with Hugh. Jo I was thrilled to see the story was set around here!! I really hope they film it here. Another lovely local school that might do well would be Mt Holyoke College which is just up the road apiece from me. It's a beautiful area and, you're right, fall would be perfect! I found the character to be very dogged and determined. That, coupled with the fish out of water aspect, should be a good combination of characteristics for Hugh to sink his teeth into. I think Natalie may be too small a role for Rachel. I'm more curious to see who will play his friend Benedict. That will be an interesting role for someone. Sue |
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Post by jo on May 8, 2013 9:01:53 GMT -5
Terence Howard is playing his neighbor and best friend in PRISONERS. If they turn out to have good chemistry, TH could reprise another movie with Hugh and play the key role of Benedict.
Or someone like David Oyelowo -- he is a classically trained actor from the UK who achieved success with Henry VI...but has now relocated to LA. He has been featured in small by eyecatching roles in Lincoln and the forthcoming The Butler. Had the Lee Daniels film project of SELMA prospered( remember when Hugh was supposed to play the sheriff Jim Clark ?) - David was supposed to have played the role of MLKing.
I know the role of Natalie is quite small, but I do like the film presence and strong personality of Rachel, which this short but key role calls for - plus she and Hugh make credible lovers on screen!
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Post by jo on May 9, 2013 19:18:26 GMT -5
Wish list of producers for remake of SOUTH PACIFIC : Hugh Jackman as Emile de Becque  www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2322259/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Michelle-Williams-sets-sail-Bali-Hai.html*If Hugh has the time ( and Carousel is really a no-go in the meantime) -- this sounds like a good dramatic followup to Les Miserables ( rather than lightweight musicals like Guys and Dolls). With the delay in HOUDINI, the schedule may be able to fit this in. *I am heartened by the fact that the revised screenplay will be based on the original source, James Michener's "Tales of the South Pacific" ( which I read oh-so-long-ago) - it will add dramatic heft to the beloved musical score of Rodgers and Hammerstein. The story of the planter Emile de Becque could be given more attention ( on how he came to settle down in a remote island in the South Pacific - if I recall right, there was also a criminal past that he was running away from)...And I have a feeling that the racism issue re Emile de Becque's children and Lt. Cable's love for Liat will be part of the dramatic highlights - remember, this is set in the second world war ...and not now when the times and people's outlooks have changed considerably. *If there is more drama, could Adam Guettel ( Rodgers grandson who composed Light in the Piazza) help out with a new song, maybe for DeBecque ( about his past)? *Michelle and Hugh -- there was very good chemistry in DECEPTION - it could work as well in a dramatic musical for these two fine actors! Will they portray Nellie not as sprightly Nellie ( portrayed by Mitzi Gaynor) but as a more sensitive and even shy individual caught in the war? *Justin as Joseph Cable -- hmm...we'll see. Btw - Baz Bamigboye usually has the inside info on showbiz stuff. He was one of the first to scoop the Les Miserables casting...and even interviewed Hugh when he came to see his one-man show in Toronto. Hope it happens!! Jo |
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Post by mamaleh on May 9, 2013 19:59:47 GMT -5
That would be exciting, certainly. Emile is somewhat older--at least in his late 40s, if not early 50s. In the novel, doesn't he have several children born of various relationships on the island? The oldest "child" is supposed to be in her early 20s. So maybe this time, unlike his almost-role in CHICAGO, he'd be wise enough to slap some "old-age" makeup on.
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Post by rmtndew on May 9, 2013 21:04:44 GMT -5
I've never seen South Pacific so I can't say who'd I'd like to play the character Justin Timberlake is rumored to be playing, I just hope it's not him. I think he's an okay actor, but it seems like he's always the same. And I personally never saw his appeal. Maybe that's just me, though.
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Post by natalieavery on May 9, 2013 22:37:19 GMT -5
In James Michener's novel "Tales of the South Pacific" Emile De Becque is described like this,
"He was in his forties, slim, a bit stoop shouldered, he had long arms and wrists, and although he used his hands constantly in making conversation, they were relaxed and delicate in their movements. The tall Frenchman was eager for someone to talk to; he was an able arguer, impressing on all present the fundamental soundness of his reasoning."
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Post by natalieavery on May 9, 2013 22:56:21 GMT -5
From what I remember,Emile de Becque in the book version (in the short story "Our Heroine") has eight mixed-race illegitimate daughters by relationships he's had with four different women (none of whom he married. It's after this that he finally meets the nurse Ensign Nellie Forbush. In the movie musical "South Pacific", he has two young legitimate mixed-race children (a girl and a boy) by a woman whom he had married and who had died. We meet them in the song "Dites-moi".
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Post by mamaleh on May 9, 2013 23:48:04 GMT -5
I've never seen South Pacific so I can't say who'd I'd like to play the character Justin Timberlake is rumored to be playing, I just hope it's not him. I think he's an okay actor, but it seems like he's always the same. And I personally never saw his appeal. Maybe that's just me, though. - Alicia It's not just you, Alicia. I don't see Timberlake's appeal at all, either. He seems to be essentially playing himself in the few vehicles I've seen him in. His appeal likewise eludes my daughter. I'd say you're wise beyond your years.  Ellen |
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Post by hu4601 on May 10, 2013 2:45:59 GMT -5
Wish list of producers for remake of SOUTH PACIFIC : Hugh Jackman as Emile de Becque www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2322259/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Michelle-Williams-sets-sail-Bali-Hai.html*If Hugh has the time ( and Carousel is really a no-go in the meantime) -- this sounds like a good dramatic followup to Les Miserables ( rather than lightweight musicals like Guys and Dolls). With the delay in HOUDINI, the schedule may be able to fit this in. *I am heartened by the fact that the revised screenplay will be based on the original source, James Michener's "Tales of the South Pacific" ( which I read oh-so-long-ago) - it will add dramatic heft to the beloved musical score of Rodgers and Hammerstein. The story of the planter Emile de Becque could be given more attention ( on how he came to settle down in a remote island in the South Pacific - if I recall right, there was also a criminal past that he was running away from)...And I have a feeling that the racism issue re Emile de Becque's children and Lt. Cable's love for Liat will be part of the dramatic highlights - remember, this is set in the second world war ...and not now when the times and people's outlooks have changed considerably. *If there is more drama, could Adam Guettel ( Rodgers grandson who composed Light in the Piazza) help out with a new song, maybe for DeBecque ( about his past)? *Michelle and Hugh -- there was very good chemistry in DECEPTION - it could work as well in a dramatic musical for these two fine actors! Will they portray Nellie not as sprightly Nellie ( portrayed by Mitzi Gaynor) but as a more sensitive and even shy individual caught in the war? *Justin as Joseph Cable -- hmm...we'll see. Btw - Baz Bamigboye usually has the inside info on showbiz stuff. He was one of the first to scoop the Les Miserables casting...and even interviewed Hugh when he came to see his one-man show in Toronto. Hope it happens!! Jo Hugh as De Becque, would be a dream come true for me. I shouldn't get too excited at something that probably won't eventuate, but my squeals of delight when I read this must have the neighbours wondering what was going on in my townhouse !!!! >  |
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Post by jo on May 10, 2013 3:00:27 GMT -5
I have never seen a Justin Timberlake movie...not even an MTV. He will have very large shoes to fill as he will be compared with dreamboat John Kerr who was the perfect Lt. Joseph Cable and sang ( dubbed, it seemed) the romantic YOUNGER THAN SPRINGTIME. He needs to be the dreamy type ( to persuade Bloody Mary to consider him as marriage potential for her beautiful daughter Liat), somewhat idealistic, but will need a strong screen presence among the soldier corps that populated the islands. Re Emile de Becque, his famous song is one of the most celebrated and most romantic from the theatre, SOME ENCHANTED EVENING! It is usually sung by a baritone although the first stage Emile was an opera singer ( Ezio Pinza) and I think the film lead Rossano Brazzi was also dubbed by an opera singer ( Giorgio Tozzi). Hugh is a high baritone, so this may be right along his singing alley ...Emile also sings the lovely TWIN SOLILOQUYS with Nellie...and a comedic but brief take on I'M GONNA WASH THAT MAN OUTTA MY HAIR. So the role is probably going to combine dramatic talent and singing chops. Btw, someone said on BWW that no way can Hugh be able to portray a Frenchman. Ahem - I had to respond with " HJ was nominated for an Oscar as Jean Valjean - and in a musical, too!"...Did you notice in the scene before he rescues Fauchelevent and he excuses himself from Javert to see to the commotion, he says " Pardon!" in the most exqusite French accent. I don't know whether it is the sometimes nasal quality in his voice which makes him comfortable with the " in" and the "en" and the "on" in French words...or the time spent with his French aunt-in-law when he and the family visit the relations in France -- but he could learn a few choice words en Francais easily I have a fantasy casting suggestion -- why not make Lea Salonga look more Polynesian ( she comes from the Philippines, and we are from the Malay Race, and we do live on the westernmost edge of the Pacific, albeit above the equator) and very deglamorized -- and cast her as Bloody Mary? She can sing a fabulous version of BALI HAI and the whimsical HAPPY TALK. I have seen her in light film roles here and she can probably do comedy. Another key role is that of Luther Billis - I haven't given much thought to that. I have a feeling that if Hugh wants the role -- it is his for the asking - I doubt that the Rodgers and Hammerstein Organization, if they have a say, will balk at it! > In the meantime, this is as good a time as any to unearth my DVD and cast recording of the film version...and SIX PLAYS OF RODGERS AND HAMMERSTEIN  Jo |
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Post by mamaleh on May 10, 2013 6:14:30 GMT -5
More reasons not to consider Timberlake. He's also known for his boy-band moves, none of which he'd be likely to execute in a SOUTH PACIFIC film. And isn't Cable supposed to be in his early 20s? Maybe someone like Zac Efron, who has showed dramatic chops in a number of indie films of late, would be more appropriate.
I hope someone asks Hugh about this at the upcoming SiriusXM Town Hall opener.
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Post by jo on May 10, 2013 6:23:46 GMT -5
Eddie Redmayne? Or Aaron Tveit?
Samantha Barks, with Oriental makeup, as Liat?
Wishful thinking - LOL!
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Post by Jamie on May 10, 2013 6:47:03 GMT -5
I have never seen a Justin Timberlake movie...not even an MTV. He will have very large shoes to fill as he will be compared with dreamboat John Kerr who was the perfect Lt. Joseph Cable and sang ( dubbed, it seemed) the romantic YOUNGER THAN SPRINGTIME. He needs to be the dreamy type ( to persuade Bloody Mary to consider him as marriage potential for her beautiful daughter Liat), somewhat idealistic, but will need a strong screen presence among the soldier corps that populated the islands. Re Emile de Becque, his famous song is one of the most celebrated and most romantic from the theatre, SOME ENCHANTED EVENING! It is usually sung by a baritone although the first stage Emile was an opera singer ( Ezio Pinza) and I think the film lead Rossano Brazzi was also dubbed by an opera singer ( Giorgio Tozzi). Hugh is a high baritone, so this may be right along his singing alley ...Emile also sings the lovely TWIN SOLILOQUYS with Nellie...and a comedic but brief take on I'M GONNA WASH THAT MAN OUTTA MY HAIR. So the role is probably going to combine dramatic talent and singing chops. Btw, someone said on BWW that no way can Hugh be able to portray a Frenchman. Ahem - I had to respond with " HJ was nominated for an Oscar as Jean Valjean - and in a musical, too!"...Did you notice in the scene before he rescues Fauchelevent and he excuses himself from Javert to see to the commotion, he says " Pardon!" in the most exqusite French accent. I don't know whether it is the sometimes nasal quality in his voice which makes him comfortable with the " in" and the "en" and the "on" in French words...or the time spent with his French aunt-in-law when he and the family visit the relations in France -- but he could learn a few choice words en Francaise easily I have a fantasy casting suggestion -- why not make Lea Salonga look more Polynesian ( she comes from the Philippines, and we are from the Malay Race, and we do live on the westernmost edge of the Pacific, albeit above the equator) -- and cast her as Bloody Mary? She can sing a fabulous version of BALI HAI and the whimsical DITES MOI. I have seen her in light film roles here and she can probably do comedy. Another key role is that of Luther Billis - I haven't given much thought to that. I have a feeling that if Hugh wants the role -- it is his for the asking - I doubt that the Rodgers and Hammerstein Organization, if they have a say, will balk at it! > In the meantime, this is as good a time as any to unearth my DVD and cast recording of the film version...and SIX PLAYS OF RODGERS AND HAMMERSTEIN Jo They must have missed the scene in Kate and Leopold where he spoke French to take down Kate's predatory boss. |
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Post by carouselkathy on May 10, 2013 8:06:10 GMT -5
Love the idea of Lea Salonga as Bloody Mary! Would also like Aaron Tveit as Cable. However, I have a feeling that they are going for movie stars on this one.
Of course, this is all still rumor and speculation. I could say on the internet that I'm going to play "Billis", and it would spread as if it were Gospel! By the way, Bill Lee dubbed John Kerr in the 1956 film, and also sang for Christopher Plummer in THE SOUND OF MUSIC.
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Post by mamaleh on May 10, 2013 8:28:26 GMT -5
Speaking of Billis, someone on Broadwayworld.com said he's rather see Hugh as Billis--because he wants to see him shirtless (can't imagine why). I think he's referring to the "Honey Bun" number. But then Hugh would be wearing coconuts--and a grass skirt. Ellen |
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Post by jo on May 10, 2013 9:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by mamaleh on May 10, 2013 9:44:04 GMT -5
If it's Hugh, de Becque is da bomb!
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Post by birchie on May 10, 2013 14:41:16 GMT -5
I would love to see Hugh as Emil!!  I think he would be a very classy and manly Emil indeed! smiley-happy036 :o I wonder if the movie will feature the coast watching with Cable part which I would love, though it wasn't actually Emil in the original story. I wonder too what they are actually drawing on from the original source since it was really a group of many stories loosely interwoven. I hope they keep him as the legitimate father of 2 and not the illegitimate father of 8! 8-| Why not Shuler Hensley for Billis?? I think Lea is an inspired choice for Bloody Mary!! I don't see Sam as Liat but can't think of who...a very young, mixed race, innocent looking ingenue would be good. I know Sam is mixed race but I don't see her as young enough or innocent looking enough for that role. Someone mentioned Zac Efron, and I agree that he would be an excellent choice for Cable. I love Michelle and I think they would have great chemistry so that's exciting. Of course he hasn't said yes yet so we may be getting way ahead of ourselves! My fingers are firmly crossed for Hugh to take the role until it's official!  Sue |
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Post by carouselkathy on May 10, 2013 18:24:27 GMT -5
Shuler as Billis!!!! Oh, yes!!!!!
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Post by carouselkathy on May 10, 2013 18:25:35 GMT -5
Posted same thing twice....oops!
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