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Post by mamaleh on Dec 18, 2013 22:26:17 GMT -5
Wasn't he supposed to be up for another swashbuckling role, the remake of an old Errol Flynn movie, CAPTAIN BLOOD? I wonder what the tone will be of this Pan prequel: tongue-in-cheek or more serious? That makes a big difference.
Jo, what redeeming feature did "Wyatt" have at the end of DECEPTION? I'm trying to think of one, and I can't.
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Post by jo on Dec 18, 2013 23:21:14 GMT -5
Ellen,
This is what I posted --
I meant we didn't see any, even up to the end - LOL!
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Post by mamaleh on Dec 18, 2013 23:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Dec 18, 2013 23:30:52 GMT -5
An artistic rendering of the character in the past of the pirate Blackbeard -- From Wikipedia's feature on Blackbeard aka Edward Teach -- A number of fansites think "Hermit Wolverine" ( photo likely taken between filming, as Hugh doesn't look morose at all!) is already resonant of the oldworld pirate king "Pirate king"?? Hmmm...would have loved to see him portray the role from Pirates of Penzance! Jo
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Post by birchie on Dec 19, 2013 11:37:15 GMT -5
Have to say I'm not thrilled with this film idea. Hope he doesn't do it. I'd much rather see him in a real movie about Blackbeard or doing the Errol Flynn role, either the pirate movie or the once mentioned biopic. I think the fact that Javier Bardem turned it down is telling. He seems to pick a lot of award winning roles. Before anyone mentions Wolverine...I know Russel turned it down but at the time superhero movies were not considered career advancing roles, plus I don't think X-Men would have been the success it was without Hugh so it was a win-win. Anyway this and the upcoming Chappie don't seem like good choices to me. Even though I'm sure he'll have a ball doing them, I don't see them as enhancing his career at all. My biggest hope is that they don't diminish his chances for better roles in the future. Sue
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Post by jo on Dec 19, 2013 17:39:35 GMT -5
I can understand your hesitance, Sue But it is a BLACK LIST script for 2013 and it is being helmed by Brit director Joe Wright( Anna Karenina, Atonement, Pride and Prejudice, Hanna). On a sidenote - it is interesting how famed Brit directors have helmed tentpoles ( Kenneth Branagh for Thor, Sam Mendes for Skyfall). It is also being positioned by Warner Bros as a summer tentpole for 2015, as a release date for June 26, 2015 is already firmed up, so it is expected to get major studio support. If reports are true, it seems he has also been considering other "antagonist" roles, along with the Blackbeard role. Hugh's decision, if it comes, will likely be along his desired career path trajectory. I have learned to go along with his choices for all these years and it has been generally satisfactory to me. He can't be in all award-bait roles everytime. That can also be very stressful! Maybe the string of three stressful roles in the past year has had an effect on him and that was why Deb insisted on a long rest? Many scoffed that he was joining Shawn Levy's new movie on boxing robots...but REAL STEEL won many hearts for its heartwarming theme. We'll see. Jo
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Post by jo on Dec 19, 2013 18:25:40 GMT -5
Interesting discussion on AMC movie news -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGrYJeO4n4U&feature=youtu.be&aLOL - "fans simply want to look and adore Hugh Jackman" Btw, Joaquin Phoenix is reportedly interested in the Lex Luthor role in the Batman vs Superman tentpole while film/stage actor Paul Rudd is supposedly considering a Marvel movie role ( Ant-Man - sorry, not familiar with the character). Every now and then, serious actors do consider tentpoles As an aside -- Saoirse Ronan has worked with director Joe Wright in Atonement and Hanna. She will be 20 next year (it is said they are looking for a 20-something actress for the role) and could be a good choice to be Tiger Lily ...unless of course people object that a white actress is cast as the daughter of the natives's chief. Jo
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Post by foxie on Dec 19, 2013 20:34:01 GMT -5
I don't think it is a good idea either get back to the musicals or on stage or a nice romance!
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Post by birchie on Dec 20, 2013 17:07:48 GMT -5
I can understand your hesitance, Sue But it is a BLACK LIST script for 2013 and it is being helmed by Brit director Joe Wright( Anna Karenina, Atonement, Pride and Prejudice, Hanna). On a sidenote - it is interesting how famed Brit directors have helmed tentpoles ( Kenneth Branagh for Thor, Sam Mendes for Skyfall). It is also being positioned by Warner Bros as a summer tentpole for 2015, as a release date for June 26, 2015 is already firmed up, so it is expected to get major studio support. If reports are true, it seems he has also been considering other "antagonist" roles, along with the Blackbeard role. Hugh's decision, if it comes, will likely be along his desired career path trajectory. I have learned to go along with his choices for all these years and it has been generally satisfactory to me. He can't be in all award-bait roles everytime. That can also be very stressful! Maybe the string of three stressful roles in the past year has had an effect on him and that was why Deb insisted on a long rest? Many scoffed that he was joining Shawn Levy's new movie on boxing robots...but REAL STEEL won many hearts for its heartwarming theme. We'll see. Jo I highly doubt that every script that's been on the black list has turned into box-office success. As for Hugh's choices, of course we have no other choice but to go along with them and hope they turn out OK. Frankly there are a few movies I wish he'd never made, but he's been lucky, in that none of the iffy ones have done damage to his career, though they haven't advanced it either. One of my pet peeves lately is this idea of "re-imagining" of old tried & true stories...don't even get me started on Star Trek! LOL! This Pan thing "re-imagines" a combination of a fictional story & a historical story and puts them together in a mish-mash that sounds ridiculous to me. I certainly don't expect every role to be award bait but, my main concern is that some of his less than spectacular choices could come back to bite him in the a**! I just hope Pan won't be the one. As for director I have to laugh, you sound like my son LOL! He has a bunch of directors he loves & I always remind him that even the best directors & even the ones he loves have made clunkers. He's been unpleasantly surprised a couple of times buying a movie sight unseen just because of the director name on the jacket. I'm a bit more of a realist. I know that even the performers & directors & writers that I love and admire sometimes do things that make me scratch my head & wonder "what were they thinking?" PS: I never thought Real Steel was a mistake or a poor choice. The ignoramuses on the Internet who said it was rock-em sock-em robots were people who didn't read what the story was about. I really wish he'd do one of the many musical films we keep hearing about or a nice romantic movie. He's done so few movies with real romantic story lines...I think he's very over due!! Sue
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Post by jo on Dec 20, 2013 17:50:19 GMT -5
Points well taken! But Hollywood ( i.e., the big studios) does not always hew their projects towards what fans ( or niches of them) want their favorite movie actors to portray in movies ( although Hugh has such a wide fan demographics). It is always following the box office preferences (and this includes the overseas market which has now overtaken the domestic market in sheer size) and only does artistic projects once in a while. Someone called it the "infantilization" of Hollywood - LOL - maybe more accent on business in "show-business"! Even some bigwigs were moaning that eventually this will cause an implosion ( big, big projects going bust at the box office, as witnessed earlier this year for some tentpoles). Re the Black List for 2013 -- someone did an analysis of the bent of the scripts being submitted for filming consideration ( which of course is a major factor in the kind of film projects that filmmakers and studios will look at). It is interesting that the top subjects are biopics and those which are politically-slanted. Re biopics - unfortunately, the actor's visage and physical attributes are a factor in the way the projects may be cast. In the case of Hugh, his name has only been mentioned a little seriously in the languishing Hugh Hefner biopic project-- and many fans are not in favor of such a project ( no matter that he could put on a good portrayal -- fans do not want to associate him with such a character). I think Hugh's film offers could be heavily influenced by what WME is able to package as a film project. In the Black List for 2013, WME is tied at top spot with CAA. PAN is on the Black List, but more towards the bottom. But as the site owner of SCRIPTSHADOW says ( Carson Reeves), the subject of Peter Pan has always fascinated Hollywood...and that many spec scripts on the subject has sold well. I've thought about this - and just like how I wondered about the popularity of entertainment options which cater to the much younger demos -- I have come to realize that each new generation brings on a new batch of fans. Us, oldies, know the story backward and forward - although I just bought a copy of the original J.M.Barrie's Peter Pan...and hopefully after breezing through it, give it to my 12-year old young relative who is more at home with Harry Potter these days ( although she has discovered Sherlock Holmes lately) and introduce her to "arguably the greatest of children's stories" and maybe she will also discover this true classic of imaginative literature! And if Hugh ever does the movie - maybe experience also the same magic wand! I take a more pragmatic view -- *Hugh will not always get first cracks at what some of us think are the desirable projects for him. And he is known to have chased only one role to the best of his ability ( and in that case, he was really the frontrunner) - that of Valjean in Les Miserables. *Hugh is also not the type who will put his full artistic inclinations as top priority in his life. He has a zest for life and he wants it to be meaningful in many ways ( including using his fame to pursue certain advocacies). He also says it is his personal life which is most important to him ( which could mean anything, from time spent and personal breaks with his family, scheduling/location filming, Deb's inputs, and even estate building for them or his extended family). He also likes to enjoy his projects - so a fun project once in a while could surprise us. He is not in the cast of Daniel Day Lewis who does not do film projects often and if he does, will focus usually on intense, almost typcast roles. His one foray into musicals was a disaster ( Nine). *Movie musicals could be iffy projects. Hollywood is being cautious in the next few musicals projects ( a jukebox/biopic project in JERSEY BOYS, a well-branded persona in ANNIE, a well-star-stacked project but with a non-populist appeal composer in INTO THE WOODS). Fox which was supposed to have acquired the film remake rights to GUYS AND DOLLS, with Hugh originally in mind, is now supposed to be toying with younger casting ( Channing Tatum and J Gordon Levitt - bah! Unless Hugh turned it down in favor of Barnum ) But BARNUM is still awaiting a greenlight - who knows what still lies ahead to get the studio approval and the project going....Even stage musicals can also be iffy -- look at what has happened to the development of HOUDINI -- will we even see the show by 2015/2016 ( and Hugh has been patiently attached to it since 2009! Too long a commitment!). *I think Hugh seems to balance his career between film and stage. And he uses both to give him career options. I am interested to know whether he continues to have definite plans to go back to the stage, maybe in a limited engagement play. Maybe follow another "artistic-friendly coupled with family-friendly" entertainment career options. Just like he did when he followed A Steady Rain with Real Steel! Again, we'll see how things turn out for him in the near future. Jo
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Post by birchie on Dec 20, 2013 22:33:41 GMT -5
Apparently you're high on this project but it's not something that would be of interest to me. I'll support it only if Hugh is in it. If you're expecting a biopic I think you'll be disappointed because they stuck in a pirate named Blackbeard but the story has nothing in it resembling the actual person. From what I read in the description it also doesn't seem to have much to do with J.M.Barrie's charming original story of Peter Pan. I'm not even sure it's going to be a film for children. If you're interested in a biopic I'd highly recommend Finding Neverland starring Johnny Depp as J.M.Barrie. While a few liberties were taken with the facts (as is always the case) it remains a very charming story about the children that inspired him to write Peter Pan.
Finally, I'm not in anyway way denigrating Hugh. I just don't like the sound of this movie and wish he wouldn't sign on for it. We don't even know for sure that he will anyway. If he does, he does and I'll watch to see how the filming progresses and maybe at some point it will sound like a better movie. I'm not counting on that, but it would be nice to be proven wrong. I thought Movie 43 sounded like trash and that's pretty much what it was. Even Hugh doesn't like to talk about that one. So I don't think you have to be his protector on this board or explain to anyone what he's like and how he assesses his priorities. I love my sons too but that doesn't mean I think every decision they make is perfect. I support whatever they are involved in but to a point. If they're involved in something unhealthy, dangerous or out of character, I do voice my opinion; doesn't mean I love them less because I disagree once in a while. So I guess for this movie we'll have to agree to disagree. Sue
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Post by jo on Dec 21, 2013 1:55:52 GMT -5
Not really -- I am not that keen on this project, personally-speaking. I am just keeping an open mind and am interested to explore it further ( hence, the J.M.Barrie book of Peter Pan that I am going to reread). I actually think it is going to be something like "Pirates of the Caribbean" - a fantasy story, with some familiar characters, that will be considered almost like a Disney family-friendly tentpole. If Hugh takes it on - I am hoping that he has seen or explored enough of the project to persuade himself that it is worth his while. So, there is really nothing to agree to disagree on As for -- He's big enough and old enough to do that himself - LOL! I am just trying to explain why I see things a little differently ( pragmatically-speaking). I don't necessarily expect anyone to agree with my point of view either and I never meant to offend anyone ... I certainly respect your opinion on this subject, Sue, and I hoped we were just exchanging views, no matter that they diverge from each other in a way. I guess when more details on the project come out ( such as a copy of the script, other casting possibilities, and the director's vision for the project) -- I may end up prefering for him to take on other projects. Or being more excited about it, compared to this point. Let's hope for the best - whatever will inspire Hugh ( and us) for his next project Jo
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2014 5:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 24, 2014 13:20:47 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Jan 24, 2014 18:16:19 GMT -5
Ok - off to the bookstore to see if I can find a book on Blackbeard ( it seems he was a great pirate during those days - LOL!). Interesting that WB switched gears and offered the role to Hugh, after Bardem declined it. Bardem has always struck me as a hardened type of movie villain ( sorry, I think I have only seen him in one movie-- but he is a good actor)...while Hugh might bring a more charismatic ( needed for leadership, in addition to the fear factor!) slant to the character! Will it be a serious movie ( even if it is meant as a summer tentpole - July 2015 release) or will it be more comedic? I think Hugh might bring to the table a different kind of characterization... Now, if only he would whistle the PIRATE KING song, eh Ellen Jo
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 24, 2014 19:01:20 GMT -5
He'd make a great Pirate King--just as good as Kevin Kline in his heyday. But I'll settle for Blackbeard. Ellen
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Post by birchie on Mar 10, 2014 9:43:54 GMT -5
Not sure this qualifies as an actual rumor yet but it seems many are speculating that Hugh would be perfect for a rumored movie being made of yet another video game, "The Last of Us". I love the comment about how he should play the role based on how good he was in Prisoners! au.ibtimes.com/articles/542471/20140310/last-movie-chloe-moretz-hugh-jackman-ellen.htmSomeone came up with a collage of Keller Dover vs Joel (the Last of Us character) that looks interesting! Sue
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Post by jo on Mar 17, 2014 2:30:13 GMT -5
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Post by carouselkathy on Mar 17, 2014 7:57:58 GMT -5
Does Hugh still hope to adapt it, or was that a bit of old info added by the writer of the article?
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Post by jo on Mar 17, 2014 8:08:06 GMT -5
The article was written on March 17, 2014. The writer was quoting Beatty on what he said about Beatty's encounter with Hugh, supposedly "the other day" -- I may be misreading the intention but that seemed more definite than the writer simply attributing Hugh's desire for a remake of Carousel from a previous article about Hugh. I am not saying though that Hugh's desire to do a remake is all that it will take to get it produced. Realistically, given the attitude of Hollywood towards musicals, it may actually be more of a pipe dream Jo
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Post by mamaleh on Mar 17, 2014 8:43:50 GMT -5
Of course, PIPE DREAM is yet another R&H musical, LOL. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
At this point, much like Joe Gillis in a putative movie version of the SB musical, I fear that Billy Bigelow is behind Hugh, which was likely the case even five years ago--unless a reimagining of the character had him in middle age and desperate for his last chance at success, which might be a more intriguing storyline, actually. But I highly doubt either scenario will come to pass, unfortunately.
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Post by carouselkathy on Mar 17, 2014 19:32:17 GMT -5
Of course, PIPE DREAM is yet another R&H musical, LOL. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) At this point, much like Joe Gillis in a putative movie version of the SB musical, I fear that Billy Bigelow is behind Hugh, which was likely the case even five years ago--unless a reimagining of the character had him in middle age and desperate for his last chance at success, which might be a more intriguing storyline, actually. But I highly doubt either scenario will come to pass, unfortunately. Ellen That's probably true Ellen. Although, I've always pictured Billy as swaggering, even though past his prime, and Julie as an old maid working in that mill. This would be more in keeping with LILIOM. She still would have to be of child bearing age, but not as young as in previous productions.
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Post by jo on Mar 17, 2014 22:14:43 GMT -5
I have a copy of the play LILIOM ( the nickname of the character renamed Billy Bigelow in the musical), which I got when there was a strong buzz that a movie remake was getting closer to being considered seriously for filmization. In the play, during the time he faced the pearly gates, Liliom was asked by the gatekeeper how old he was. His reply : " Twenty four."But screen heroes can be any age, isn't it Jo
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Post by carouselkathy on Mar 18, 2014 0:19:55 GMT -5
In the French movie version of LILIOM, there is no way that Charles Boyer was 24!!!!!!!
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Post by jo on Mar 18, 2014 3:11:23 GMT -5
Charles Boyer always looks mature - LOL!
And terribly sophisticated - LOL
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