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Post by jo on Sept 13, 2013 8:09:19 GMT -5
www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2013&wk=38&p=.ht m At 3,150 estimated number of screens, it seems Warner Bros is giving the movie full support, despite the " R " rating. *RUSH is released only in LA and NYC for the current week, will expand the following week. However, the opening weekend estimates by some film sites are quite conservative. BoxOfficeCom expects an opening weekend of $ 19 million and predicted cumulative North American run of $ 70 million. www.boxoffice.com/statistics/long_term_predictions HSX (posted on Deadline Hollywood) estimates an opening weekend of $ 14.5 million for Prisoners. www.deadline.com/hollywood/Please scroll down to the lower right hand side -- Jo
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Post by jo on Sept 13, 2013 8:34:53 GMT -5
In comparison to the 3,150 estimated screen count for PRISONERS, the opening screen count for THE WOLVERINE was 3,924. THE WOLVERINE earned an opening weekend ( domestic) of a supposedly-weaker-than-expected amount of $ 53.1 million. The screen count for PRISONERS is approximately 80% of the count for THE WOLVERINE. I know this is an "R-rated" movie, but a high estimate of $ 19 million will put it at only 36% of THE WOLVERINE... Hopefully, the estimates from BoxOffice.Com and HSX are quite on the low side. Okay, let's go out and vote for Hugh  <cheer> Jo |
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Post by jo on Sept 14, 2013 7:36:34 GMT -5
BoxOffice.com has raised its predictions, as of Sept 13, 2013 -- www.boxoffice.com/statistics/long_term_predictionsOpening Weekend - $ 21,000,000 ( from $ 19,000,000) Cumulative Domestic Run - $ 77,000,000 ( from $ 70,000,000) Jo |
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2013 2:07:23 GMT -5
Here are the first weekend estimates ( via Deadline Hollywood) --   Artistic and commercial triumph!  smiley-happy036  Jo |
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2013 2:16:54 GMT -5
Among the many articles on PRISONERS this weekend was this LA Times article entitled "'Prisoners': Six things to know about the Jake Gyllenhaal thriller"
Haha!
That was why I was grinning from ear to ear to read Nikki's comments :
They both did their jobs very well, acting-wise and promoting the movie.
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2013 8:13:45 GMT -5
Updated on Saturday - same figures, more details and conjectures from Nikki :
The original pairing was Wahlberg and Bale...DiCaprio came in later but no mention of who might have played Loki.
It is also arguable that they could have been the better acting team.
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Post by mamaleh on Sept 21, 2013 10:18:18 GMT -5
Not necessarily better but different. I like that the projections are inching up for the box office.
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2013 12:16:16 GMT -5
Nikki Finke has further refined the estimated weekend figures --
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Post by birchie on Sept 22, 2013 16:58:44 GMT -5
I saw the movie today! I'll comment more on another thread but I just wanted to say that we went to the first show of the day and I was very surprised by how many people were there. This area isn't known for big turnouts at early matinees which is why we go then so having the theater about 1/4 full was very big for here! I had to go to the ladies at one point and the theater next to ours was about to start another showing and I had to laugh because as I was about to go into the ladies a group of 4 or 5 ladies went into that theater. I laughed because they were all older than me!! 70s plus!! I think I was the oldest one (66) in our theater but that group did surprise me! <insomnia> On the other end of the spectrum though...my son's partner, who also read the script, commented that he was wondering if I was bringing any of the grandkids since I usually bring them whenever I go to a movie. I said no this is definitely an adult movie and after reading the script I knew better! I didn't see any kids at the theater. I think there were a few 20-somethings, but that was the youngest of the crowd that I saw. Sue |
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Post by jo on Sept 22, 2013 19:50:25 GMT -5
Additional stats and insights on the Opening Weekend audiences -- www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-hugh-jackman-jake-633992Warner Bros seems to be doing a great job to promote the movie ( I did not think Hugh et al would be that busy promoting the film, given that is a moderately-budgeted film - they must have spent a lot in the USA promotion alone - there is still Europe to come, esp the two festivals where Hugh will be honored). The studio has been generous in providing key benchmarks ( from other past successful films), which could be a sign that they are very interested in attracting the same audiences that came to those films and eventually made them commercial successes ( moderate or bigger). And, I am also thinking that Warner Bros is already pointing towards "awards-worthy" comparisons!  Jo |
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Post by jo on Sept 23, 2013 12:31:55 GMT -5
Why did the movie work?? First, it is a story that resonates with people because it deals with a contemporary crisis, set in a typical home and family surroundings. Nothing will involve people more than when they see the portrayal of a theme which is familiar but with the kind of surrealistic spin from which they ( the audience) never want to see themselves involved with in real life. Nothing will involve people more than when they see characters that could be themselves but who can act in very predictable or completely unpredictable manner. There was even a thread on the somewhat snobbish Movie Awards board on IMDB where a non-fan was lamenting how the board has all of a sudden become a great fan of PRISONERS ( everyone's favorite - he could not quite believe it!). Also, I have not seen an IMDB movie page ( not for Les Miserables or The Wolverine), in recent memory, create so many topics for fairly serious discussions, except for some arthouse or favorite fanboy movies -- just ordinary questions or matters of curiousity for a movie audience that was so surprised and engrossed with how they found this movie. The film is very well-made, based on the opinions of some of the most respected top critics. The blockbusters became suddenly lame when it came to this boxoffice hit-movie which pleased many artistic elements -- great scipt, fine direction, well-lauded acting from a stellar cast, Oscar-worthy cinematography, and others. Not even the length of the movie was enough to dissuade audiences from really liking/loving this movie. It is the acting that has people applauding the most! Everyone loves a puzzle! The movie is making people think! Even the ambigious ending has its horde of supporters! There are even discussions of what happens to Keller from a legal standpoint. People are examining the clues in this thriller if they stand rigorous analysis for an excellent denouement. I thought one viewing would be enough for many people - how can one see this movie more than once, with its very dark subject matter and even some scenes that can invite a horrible reaction? But I have noted a few tweets and message board posts which said they had seen the movie a second time! Because they wanted to make sure they have a full grasp of the storyline and the characterizations! The LA Times has forgotten what I thought is a telling stat about the actual audiences. It's been noted that, women were outscoring the men in numbers, albeit not by a large number! Is this just the Jackman and Gyllenhaal fanbases ( although Nikki Finke thinks Jake is not that much of a draw)? Is this because the women will find the subject closer to home because of the gender's emotional quotient? Is this because women consider this as mainstream cinema, not just arthouse attraction? Also, The LA Times has not even mentioned the possible Oscar buzz that may rouse more interest in the movie, from a boxoffice standpoint. That it would be a crowd-pleaser, or at least have good commercial potential was already indicated when it won 2nd runnerup for the People's Choice Award at the Toronto Film Festival! Lol - sorry for the long and meandering thoughts. And my only credentials at this point are having read the script and poring over all the reviews and articles. Will probably be able to add more in 48 hours or so Jo |
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Post by Jamie on Sept 29, 2013 8:17:14 GMT -5
Second weekend and it only dropped to third despite wide release of a major family film (Meatballs 2) and what is considered a major Oscar contender in Rush.
Domestic: $31,064,000 96.3%
+ Foreign: $1,200,000 3.7%
= Worldwide: $32,264,000
Still quite a run to go and certainly proves Hugh is great box office even in a film that isn't Wolverine or a musical.
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Post by jo on Sept 29, 2013 9:19:12 GMT -5
I am hoping that PRISONERS could still outdo RUSH when the weekend figures have been reported. The BoxOfficeMojo figures are only up to Friday, September 27 - so there is still hope Deadline Hollywood gives a Sunday AM update and gives these results and forecasts -- www.deadline.com/hollywood/It is neck to neck for the weekend figures estimate between # 2 and # 3 -- but PRISONERS is enjoying very good word of mouth! It actually did much better on Saturday. I wonder what will make people flock more to RUSH ( esp with Nikki saying that F-1 racing is not popular in the USA) on Sunday? But RUSH will likely do well in Europe and maybe AustralAsia where the sport is very popular. Their foreign figures may even exceed the USA. I am not sure how PRISONERS will do overseas? The focus of the promotion seems to be solely on the Western Europe end. Also, why was Warner Bros been unable to compress the release schedules outside the USA. Finland is supposed to be able to see it only on January 4! With a more compressed schedule the word-of-mouth impact, internet-wide and media-wide, could be felt more strongly. Back to the weekend in the USA -- Fingers crossed when the final weekend tally comes in <cheer> Jo |
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Post by jo on Sept 29, 2013 18:11:48 GMT -5
BoxOfficeMojo reports updated worldwide figures cumulative to Sunday, but still based on estimates -- Reports from MSN and another update from Deadline Hollywood confirm that PRISONERS has firmly taken over the second rank and pushed ahead of RUSH more firmly. news.msn.com/pop-culture/cloudy-sequel-tops-weekend-box-officePRISONERS has a slow schedule of release in the overseas market, hence the relatively modest international results. Here's the worldwide release schedule, according to IMDB ( mother company of BoxOfficeMojo) -- www.imdb.com/title/tt1392214/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_infMaybe we will get much better results within October in terms of foreign receipts. Jo |
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Post by jo on Oct 2, 2013 4:24:23 GMT -5
This is quite a surprise!! PRISONERS topped the UK box office, surpassing previous # 1, RUSH! The UK is the spiritual home of motor racing, especially FORMULA ONE, and James Hunt was a Brit racing champion! www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a520210/hugh-jackmans-prisoners-beats-rush-at-uk-box-office.html?utm_source=twt&utm_medium=snets&utm_campaign=twitterCheck out the results ( from the link) of the poll, indicating how the audience rated the movie! In terms of current foreign exchange rates, PRISONERS recorded approx $ 2.2 million for the opening weekend. Btw, RUSH opened on Sept 13 in the UK, with an opening weekend of approx GBP 2 million/$ 3.3 million. Woody Allen's BLUE JASMINE is doing well. Ironically, the only Woody Allen film that was never released in the UK, inspite of the story taking place in London and environs and being partly or mostly financed by the BBC ( if I am not mistaken), was SCOOP with Hugh and Scarlett Johansson, due to film distribution issues. Jo |
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Post by jo on Oct 7, 2013 19:25:49 GMT -5
BoxOfficeMojo update as of October 6, 2013 --
Btw, it placed fourth among Weekend figures ( after Gravity/ Meatballs/Runner) and was still ahead of Rush.
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Post by mamaleh on Oct 8, 2013 7:52:54 GMT -5
Of course, this past weekend the box office champ, owing to its glitzy special effects in 3D, was GRAVITY. I'm a bit annoyed that it outpulled THE WOLVERINE by a couple of million dollars in its opening weekend, but then I don't think the latter played in as many 3D-IMAX venues.
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Post by jo on Oct 8, 2013 17:22:11 GMT -5
I have read some comments/tweets which said that GRAVITY which deals with a spaceship and two astronauts ( I haven't seen the movie) was a little reminiscent of Tommy in his bubbleship in Aronofsky's THE FOUNTAIN. I remember that during the Venice Festival showing of The Fountain, there were boos in one screening...but one renowned filmmaker stood up and defended the movie, even resulting in some kind of physical altercation. I am not so sure now, but I know it was a foreign filmmaker with a Latin-sounding name... and if my recollection is right, it might have been GRAVITY director Alfonso Cuaron? Btw, much has been said about Hugh's portrayal in PRISONERS. But as I was searching for that Venice Film Festival booing incident, I came upon this review of THE FOUNTAIN -- condemnedmovies.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/the-fountain-2/Pleased as I am with the huge praises for Hugh's PRISONERS performance, I would not put it higher than his portrayals in THE FOUNTAIN or LES MISERABLES, because each of these two movies dealt with a much more complicated story arc and the character had many acting layers to its portrayal. Of course, if he gets an Oscar nod or a win -- who am I to complain Btw, it was also Warner Bros which did not seem to give its full support to Aronofsky's movie ( The Fountain), stopped production when Brad Pitt left the movie, gave it a much reduced budget when Aronofsky rewrote it, even refused to finance the director commentary for the DVD/BLuRay release...and probably did not even give it a reasonable marketing budget. But look at how they have been supportive of PRISONERS now -- *It has been doing the festival circuit ( at least 4) and it has suprised many festival goers *It is probably in full support of the recognition given Hugh, via awards in San Sebastian and Zurich...and look at how many magazine covers and features Hugh has been involved in? *Despite its R rating, it gave the movie a very wide release schedule in north America! *For such a moderately-budgeted movie ( $ 46 million), it has had an extensive media coverage and a number of film premieres in North America and Europe. Sadly, in Asia, we seemed not to have gotten the same measure of publicity. *On its third week going fourth, the number of screens is still in the 3200's in north America! Making amends ?? It would be wonderful if WARNER BROS makes a full bid for OSCAR glory with two of its films in 2013 -- GRAVITY and PRISONERS! Jo |
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Post by jo on Oct 15, 2013 0:41:54 GMT -5
BoxOfficeMojo update as of October 13, 2013 --
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Post by jo on Oct 28, 2013 10:23:01 GMT -5
Update from Box Office Mojo ( estimated as of October 27) --
The movie has now crossed over the $ 100 million mark ( on a production budget of $ 46 million) worldwde. Hollywood conventional wisdom is a movie has to make at least 2.5 times its production budget to cover production as well as marketing costs to break even. In the USA, it is said that only 50% get back to the studio. It is much smaller in the international box office where it can be as low as 20-25% in China.
I wonder how much more the results could expand. It looks like the domestic totals have slowed down now ( Could it reach $ 65 million? Or maybe $ 70 million? ). I wonder if the international box office has also much more to contribute? It was popular in the UK and France but the figures in countries like Australia and Spain ( where Hugh was feted at a film festival) were not very strong.
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Post by jo on Nov 6, 2013 18:34:31 GMT -5
Updated results, per Box Office Mojo --
The movie seems to be on its last legs.
Overall, the American market performed better than overseas results. Is the theme more relevant to or more in the consciousness of the American market? I just saw a rerun episode of Criminal Minds which dealt with the kidnapping of a young boy and his sister ( 10 and 8 yo) - when the episode ended on a positive note, one of the leads said that this happy ending does not happen often enough and another commented that it is rare to see something end on a happy note after 24 hours from a kidnapping. With that comment, I suddenly felt even more understanding of the path chosen by Keller ( although not condoning the physical torture aspect).
Or is the weak foreign results also reflective of the fairly poor marketing/distribution policy in the overseas market?
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Post by klenotka on Nov 7, 2013 15:02:20 GMT -5
We are a small market and I don´t know how they promoted the movie in other European countries but the promotion here was poor. I haven´t seen any poster or even a trailer of any kind. Rush was released her at the same time and it was promoted about a month before. I guess Rush is more attractive theme for European market and I heard a lots of friends´ excitement about Rush but they never heard of Prisoners (even with it playing at the same time at the same movie theater...)
It is one of those exceptions when it is more successful in the US. It is a bit strange since the "independent type of festival movies" are very popular here. The truth is that there are more and more European movies in our theaters (even co-produced by two or three countries) so people have more choice than just pick one US movie over another.
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