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Apr 16, 2015 9:09:39 GMT -5
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Apr 16, 2015 18:54:27 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 16, 2015 18:54:27 GMT -5
Same teaser posted by Levi Miller on Facebook --
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Apr 16, 2015 21:42:09 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 16, 2015 21:42:09 GMT -5
Fifteen seconds??!!
Too short!!
I hope this is just the start of a series of teasers! At the moment, they seem to be veering away from the conventional marketing strategy. Also, why introduce it via Instagram and Facebook accounts of the lead stars??
Plus they could share a little more of the movie itself!
Maybe the teaser is meant to be for TV spot advertising?
Or...
did they abort the release of a longer trailer because STAR WARS released their trailer ( 1'50" long) on the same day?? And did they release a TV spot promo instead via the Instagram/Facebook accounts of Hugh and Levi?
Hmmm....
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Apr 17, 2015 0:46:01 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 17, 2015 0:46:01 GMT -5
A nice touch and casting surprise -- the mermaids are all played by the same person, the famous face of supermodel Cara Delevingne
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Apr 17, 2015 6:05:15 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 17, 2015 6:05:15 GMT -5
How imperious he looks!
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Apr 17, 2015 9:12:28 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 17, 2015 9:12:28 GMT -5
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Apr 17, 2015 18:54:40 GMT -5
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Apr 17, 2015 21:02:26 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 17, 2015 21:02:26 GMT -5
I think a delayed release was most likely ( maybe to avoid the internet traffic generated by the Star Wars trailer) -- given that the teaser is only for 15 seconds while the rated new trailer was for 2:24 minutes.
From a previous post re the Canadian film site on trailer ratings --
Hopefully, we will see it soon ( maybe in a week or so?)!
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Apr 18, 2015 10:53:52 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 18, 2015 10:53:52 GMT -5
This is the likely reason for the postponement of the PAN Trailer 2 -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs30 million hits on YouTube in two days for Star Wars (released on April 16) Same reason why PAN was not scheduled as family entertainment around Christmas -- that is reserved for STAR WARS ( Dec 18 release) - lol! Jo
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Apr 18, 2015 12:53:54 GMT -5
Post by suefb on Apr 18, 2015 12:53:54 GMT -5
Likewise, Warners released a big trailer of its own yesterday, for Batman and Superman. While it couldn't quite compete with Star Wars, it did garner a lot of interest as well (7 millions hits since yesterday). I had thought it was coming early next week, so perhaps Warners opted to switch its trailer release date with Pan. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4
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Apr 19, 2015 0:51:28 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 0:51:28 GMT -5
Hmmm... Someone posted this on the PAN IMDB message board page -- The poster is a longtime IMDB member and his previous posts seemed credible ( not coming from a troll). I hope the change is not because the release is being pushed back but that they may be realigning the marketing strategy for a more effective exposure for the movie. I thought the release of the set visit reports ( usually with the studio's consent) was an indication that everything was going to plans. I wouldn't have paid attention to the above IMDB post had there not been an unexplained postponement of the release of the second trailer ( after all the social media announcements on the exact date and even the iTunes alert). Also, it was unusual to use the social media accounts of the leads ( Jackman, Miller) to announce a teaser -- that would be limited to the audience of these actors. That seemed like a stopgap measure. I have also wondered why the official site that was announced on the poster is still not up and running...while the official Facebook account has disappeared. Is the marketing group being reorganized so another team can deliver a more effective strategy? Or...is there a delay in post-production??? This reminds me of the shift in the release of Les Miserables, from early to December to Christmas Day in 2012...but that had a very short post-production schedule. PAN completed filming in the fall of 2014 and has a longer period to handle reshoots and major post-production aspects, although PAN presumably has a more difficult schedule due to all the CGI work in the movie. There has been no change in the schedule posted by Box Office Mojo ( they are usually the most reliable and most updated when it comes to any release date changes) -- www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=all&date=2015-07-03&showweeks=5&p=.htm... Just some random thoughts... Let's hope for the best Jo
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Apr 19, 2015 5:36:49 GMT -5
Post by suefb on Apr 19, 2015 5:36:49 GMT -5
Oh, wow, that is disturbing news. I remember a hypothetical discussion at IMDb about a possible switch to a holiday release some time ago, so ... maybe it's that? Maybe Thanksgiving? Re the Facebook page, I still see it here: www.facebook.com/PANMOVIE?fref=tsAnd this site is still there, too. ?? www.panmovie.com/
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Apr 19, 2015 8:40:17 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 8:40:17 GMT -5
When is Thanksgiving? Hunger Games- Mockingjay 2 is slated for a November 20 release. There are two releases for WB on November 25 ( Creed and Midnight Special, both due for WIDE releases). www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=all&date=2015-11-05&showweeks=4.1428571428571&p=.htmThanks for the links -- I can see the Facebook Page ( I probably had the old link) but the official movie site is still not showing ( maybe I need to install a program?). I guess if the second trailer shows up in the coming week, the delay might have been simply to avoid the Star Wars internet traffic. I wonder if Batman vs Superman was substituted instead? Jo
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Apr 19, 2015 8:44:20 GMT -5
Post by suefb on Apr 19, 2015 8:44:20 GMT -5
Yes, I noticed the two Thanksgiving (yes, Nov 25) releases, Creed and Midnight Run. Warners' Christmas slate still looks thin, with just Point Break. I wonder if they might move either of the above to Christmas to make room for Pan, or just move Pan to Christmas. It also occurred to me there might be something as simple as an error in the promo material, some problem with the credits. That seems unlikely, but if it were to happen, I guess they'd have no choice but to pull back the erroneous material.
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Apr 19, 2015 8:50:14 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 8:50:14 GMT -5
If they decide to move PAN to the holidays ( Thanksgiving or Christmas -- which might even be more threatening in terms of competition -- Hunger Games Mockingjay 2 and Star Wars are looming during that time) -- it might also create a scheduling problem for Hugh for the media promotion worldwide as well as any series of premieres in key cities. Hugh is supposed to start filming GREATEST SHOWMAN ON EARTH in September and it is likely going to take the usual 3-4 months shooting schedule. Unfortunately, SHOWMAN is a Fox project while PAN is a Warner Bros release...not sure Fox will allow any interruption in filming to accommodate PAN, in case of a pushback to the holidays.
Hugh is not just the lead star for GREATEST SHOWMAN but he is also one of two key producers of the project - so his presence during filming may even be more necessary?
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Apr 19, 2015 8:58:35 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 8:58:35 GMT -5
I noticed the error in the poster immediately ( when they released it) but chose to keep quiet. It was a very significant error! If you look at the official list of credits at the bottom ( where Hugh Jackman's name is listed above the title), they forgot to list the name of Levi Miller! How could they -- when he is the titular lead!! I am not too sure -- but I couldn't spot the name of screenwriter Jason Fuchs either ( the lettering is too vague) LOL - I even used a magnifying glass to be sure! Jo
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Apr 19, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
Post by suefb on Apr 19, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
People have also noticed that some posters (like the one you show) list the score as being from Dario Marianelli while others (below) list the score as being from John Powell. Apparently, there has been a transition from Marianelli to Powell during post-production. If the print posters they've sent out is incorrect in BOTH of these ways, I can see the need to pull it back. It does concern me that avoidable errors like this could derail or delay the marketing plan. www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/pan/pan-poster-2/
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Apr 19, 2015 9:21:31 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 9:21:31 GMT -5
I rewatched the trailer -- they also missed the name of Levi Miller in the official list of credits! His name is mentioned in the cast highlights in the middle of the trailer but it is missed in the official listing at the end.
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Apr 19, 2015 9:27:12 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 9:27:12 GMT -5
Having reconfirmed the major errors on the promo material as well as the initial trailer -- I'm beginning to be more hopeful that the original release date stands.
They will likely release the second trailer shortly and theatre exhibitors will be provided with correct promo materials and a corrected first trailer.
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Apr 19, 2015 12:35:38 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 12:35:38 GMT -5
The poster on IMDB posted a second message --
Typo error - I think he meant " it also said will resend soon"...so there was an intention to simply correct the previous promo materials.
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Apr 19, 2015 18:09:55 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 18:09:55 GMT -5
There's one scriptwriting review site that not only reviews scripts and encourages new work from new screenwriters... but also shares some inside stories and some insights on the movie business --
I got this from an email that I received as part of their service ( I once had communications with the editor a very long time ago and he put me on the exclusive mailing list) --
Maybe PAN will have its chance as an excellent movie that is aimed at bringing fun?!!
Also, maybe part of the reason for the delay in the release of the second trailer of PAN was due to the decision for damage control for the Superman vs Batman trailer ( that was leaked) which called for an immediate release, thus putting the PAN trailer on a later release schedule?
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Apr 19, 2015 18:19:41 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 19, 2015 18:19:41 GMT -5
Btw, the same site reviewed the Black List of 2013. We know that PAN made that list.
Here are the editor's thoughts --
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Apr 20, 2015 3:38:09 GMT -5
Post by jo on Apr 20, 2015 3:38:09 GMT -5
Borrowed from a link found by Jackman's Landing -- regalmovies.tumblr.com/post/116405397892/pan-set-visitEssentially similar to what other set visit reports have indicated but this report is more picturesque. It is a report from REGAL CINEMA ENTERTAINMENT ( Will they put together something similar to the promo presented in their cinemas for Les Miserables?) --LOL - so Blackbeard is not dressed in pewter ( a little close) nor bronze ( must be the trick of the light) but in intimidating black! Can't wait to meet him! Jo
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Apr 20, 2015 11:53:59 GMT -5
Post by njr on Apr 20, 2015 11:53:59 GMT -5
The guy is obviously wrong. The outfit is not black, it is dark bronze.
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Apr 20, 2015 18:49:39 GMT -5
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