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Post by jo on May 7, 2014 18:29:42 GMT -5
The worldwide premiere is on Saturday ( May 10) but Fox is having quite a task enforcing its embargo ( including Twitter and similar media). Maybe we can already open this thread on "FAN / UNOFFICIAL Reviews and Reactions" ( to distinguish it from "OFFICIAL REVIEWS" )? I am borrowing this from the SuperHero Hype (SHH) forum -- forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=478707&page=2It's funny how M Alain says that there is an embargo until May 12 ( European premiere) and therefore he cannot say " that it is one of the best Marvel movies, maybe the best". LOL- that's one way to express an opinion indeed Jo
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Post by jo on May 7, 2014 18:40:34 GMT -5
Also from the same poster from the SHH forum, who translated the French comments -- forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=478707&page=2I think Omar Sy is from France? Btw, the promo showing Hugh as the bartender in a bar presumably in Paris has also gone viral ( approx. 1.7 million hits in only a few days's time). Jo
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Post by jo on May 18, 2014 20:02:59 GMT -5
Someone has set up a very detailed WIKIPEDIA account for the movie DAYS OF FUTURE PAST. You may want to read it, if you are the type who would want to know a broadly-sketched outine of what to expect from the movie, as well as to have a stronger idea of the individual characters. You may also want to know about the production details. Otherwise, if you want to be SPOILER-FREE, you may want skip the page before seeing the movie ...and maybe come back to it if you want to clarify the broadly-sketched details of the plot and characters after having seen the movie. SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERT****SPOILER ALERTen.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Days_of_Future_PastJo
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Post by jo on May 21, 2014 9:55:28 GMT -5
Just back from the cinema! Epic, enjoyable, thrilling, funny, exciting, spectacular, sometimes thought- provoking and even poignant, but thoroughly entertaining! I think you will likely enjoy the movie a lot more if you are well-versed on the previous movies and characters. I saw Rogue, Jean, Scott/Cyclops, and some of the other cast members from the first movie I don't think I can ever get that glimpse of Wolverine standing up from the bed (to face a mirror) out of my memory cells! Evah wolverine What an Adonis Jo
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Post by alma on May 23, 2014 21:57:57 GMT -5
I loved it, loved it, loved it! Can't wait to see it again.
Sure, it's got a lot of fights and special effects but this movie has a lot of HEART.
YES, I can't wait till someone posts those five seconds of Wolvie's "back" (and it goes viral)... but another favorite scene of mine is Quicksilver's Pentagon kitchen scene... I laughed out loud. In fact I laughed out loud several times throughout the film.
The movie does a great job of balancing tension and danger with deep, deep feeling with moments that make you laugh.
James McAvoy really blew me away. Hugh was right.
This is one DVD I'm getting. See it as soon as you can! Thoroughly enjoyable.
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Post by jo on May 23, 2014 22:27:07 GMT -5
Of the acting performances -- my impressions ( biases, included ) -- Generally, excellent acting all around. Given the acting credentials of this cast, that is really no surprise. *Hugh was very nuanced - not weary... but patient and almost masterly as a leader ( as befitting the protégé and ambassador of the wise old man Prof Charles Xavier!) when he tries to put the team together, unwittingly funny when he throws out his one-liners, heartfelt when he sees his old comrades in a new timeline, fierce when fighting even with just his bone claws or even a frying pan ( I think it was one!) and terrified as he convulses on that slab! He carries the masculinity of Wolverine/Logan so well! Maybe because he has been there since the beginning and has found every nuance to the character? *James M was a little melodramatic ( or maybe the script was!) - I could not reconcile how he would become the inspiring and elegant character portrayed by Patrick S ( Tbh - I did not like his portrayal in First Class - I thought Michael F outshone him there)... I could not find in James the strength of character that Patrick vividly portrayed in the original trilogy. In time, maybe? *Michael F -- he is classically handsome and is supposed to be an acting buff...but I find a bit of a one-note portrayal as Magneto. He did portray him as truly evil and self-centered. Maybe Ian M's charm and insouciance hide the evil side better, compared to the MF portrayal? Fassy is too gritty! *Jennifer L - I find her Mystique not too different from the Raven of First Class. Still uncertain, like an ingenue and not a full-grown woman, still not knowing whether she is going towards the path of evil or can her faux-brother Charles save her? Btw, why doesn't she grow old - if they were young together, how come Prof Xavier was old and she continued to be a young Mystique in X1-X2? Does her shape-sifting mutation carry the gene of never growing old? ... Sorry, but I am still inclined towards the portrayal by Rebecca Romijn, if Mystique will tread the evil path with Magneto eventually. *Patrick S -- beloved Professor! His eloquent voice alone sets an almost Shakespearean tone to this superhero action movie - is that a conumdrum? His demeanor is always impeccable as the captain of this XMEN Enterprise ... James M has a long way to go to give us the leader of the pack and be truly respected by Wolverine! *Ian M - hardly had anything to do or say ... but his presence is like an old shoe. *Peter D - less of a villain but more of a mad scientist! Credible! *Halle S - relatively brief part and without too much speaking lines. But her portrayal of the fighting Storm was thunderous ( pun intended!) and dramatic! *Evans P ( Quicksilver) - acting was lighthearted but he carried his scenes so well! *Ellen P - always the sentimental and poignant performance...will she continue to be a key XMEN heroine? *Nicholas H and the rest of the younger mutants - alright, but nothing of note. The actor who portrayed Stryker was too young and did not convey the one-sided ambitions that characterized the major/colonel in earlier movies. Jo
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Post by alma on May 23, 2014 23:31:40 GMT -5
Oh, by the way, there IS a teaser at the very, very, VERY END of the credits. Did you stay for that, Jo? I guess it's about X-Men: Apocalypse, but no one I know... just an actress I couldn't identify re-constructing a destroyed pyramid, and four horsemen sitting on top of a nearby hill... mmmhhhhmmm... maybe I'm not familiar enough with the comic books.
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Post by jo on May 23, 2014 23:40:55 GMT -5
I did, but only when I saw it for the first time. I did not bother when I saw the movie again. I will have to look up the XMEN:Apocalypse story. The woman did not suggest anything to me, but the four horsemen on the cliff did There is no confirmation yet that there will be a role ( significant, not cameo-ish) role for Hugh here. Bryan only confirmed that it is the First Class actors ( they do have a three-movie deal) who are going to be in this movie. I think I am little XMEN-ed out at this point - too much reading on the whole filming and post-production phases. Too many interviews and publicity events. Too many video clips and photos to watch. Too many reviews to read. smiley-computer004 <TMI> I would like to think of other Hugh events at this point ...A little singing and dancing, maybe smiley-cool13...maybe even a little sabre-fighting and a little pixum ( dust) in the land of Never, this time giggle Jo
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Post by jo on May 24, 2014 1:42:33 GMT -5
According to screenwriter Simon Kinberg, re the post-credits scene -- Simon Kinberg says the character teased in the post-credits scene is the super villain Apocalypse, but also says it's a younger version of the character, and a different actor will play him for X-MEN: APOCALYPSE.
I did a little bit of Wikipedia research on the topic in context of the XMEN saga(s) -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypse*How can they make a unified sense of all these? *The Wolverine/Logan/Weapon X element is not that significant. Unless Kinberg and Singer decide to rewrite a simpler and more focused story, using some elements of these unwieldy threads of XMEN lore -LOL! And once again, place Logan/Weapon X right in the middle of the unwieldy conflict and embattlement! More LOL! Another site features an interview with Kinberg and what their plans are re this unique villain -- www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00071230.htmlJo
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Post by mamaleh on May 24, 2014 7:12:23 GMT -5
SPOILER:
Were there different post-credits scenes in different markets/theaters, as happened with XMO:W? The scene I saw focused on what I took to be a young woman performing an architectural miracle and being worshiped by multitudes in an appropriately sandy location. Was that supposed to be a boy?
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Post by jo on May 24, 2014 7:49:24 GMT -5
That was what I saw -- if you read the info from screenwriter Simon Kinberg ( who was supposed to be working on this project with Bryan Singer), he is referring to that post-credits scene with the young boy and four men on horseback. He did say that that scene was just a backstory and not the focus of the forthcoming movie.
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Post by alma on May 24, 2014 8:17:15 GMT -5
SPOILER: Were there different post-credits scenes in different markets/theaters, as happened with XMO:W? The scene I saw focused on what I took to be a young woman performing an architectural miracle and being worshiped by multitudes in an appropriately sandy location. Was that supposed to be a boy? Ellen That's what I saw too, Ellen. Wouldn't have figured that was a "boy". On another note, I was happy to see some of my favorites alive and well, although I would have liked to see more than cameos. The idea of going back in time to fix things is fascinating, and leaves the door way open... specially in the comic book universe! No one is ever truly "dead" in comics. Unfortunately... Wolverine is not getting any younger! Alma
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Post by alma on May 24, 2014 21:57:35 GMT -5
I went back and warched it again today; my first movie in 3D. Yup, never bothered before! It was fun, I didn't feel dizzy or get a headache. But I loved it even without the 3D effects. Specially the happy ending. Oh, how I wish they could film the ALTERNATE history! Yeah, I know, no chance of THAT, but ... it sure would make a great movie. Oh, well... Alma
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Post by jo on May 24, 2014 22:36:47 GMT -5
To me, that was the most poignant scene, especially if one knows what happened in the past movies! The befuddlement on Logan's face, then the knowing realization that the young Xmen were given a second chance ( in maybe an alternate timeline), the sight of his beloved Jean and her Scott ( he was even glad to see the man who had Jean's heart)...but I did wish he was able to touch Rogue's white lock once more ( which meant that XMen-1 did happen!) and that reunion with Prof Xavier ( with their roles seemingly reversed once more) -- I think I was almost teary-eyed Jo
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Post by jo on May 24, 2014 22:47:07 GMT -5
It was good to see the movie at least a second time because there were many lapses on my side that I failed to see or appreciate one-liners or character references in the fast-evolving storyline. I hadn't realized that the Stryker who was part of the team who "rescued" Logan from the Potomac was actually Mystique in disguise, until it struck me that the yellow eyes was not Stryker because it was not he who was the mutant even if his son, Jason, was But I still do not fully appreciate why Magneto wanted to kill Logan? Because he wanted personal domination himself and Logan would be an obstacle...and neither did he want to be beholden to/under control by Charles ( who was still trapped underneath the rubble)? Are they now trying to rehabilitate Mystique so the Jennifer Lawrence role will now become a heroine, unlike he evil mutant portrayed by Rebecca Romijn? Did everything happen only in one day or at most two days or so - because Logan was wearing only the same shirt all the time? Re the famous wake-up scene -- now I realize that he went to see himself in the mirror because waking up 50 years earlier, he wanted to know if he looked the same! Everything was different -- the waterbed, the lamp, even the 70's song " The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"...he wanted to be sure he was still the same Logan! Who's now talking "gratuitous" scenes ?? LOL! Can't help laughing at the barrage of tweets and tweets talking about a famous body part of Logan ... I would say they were tweeted by a 95% segment of female filmgoers who went to see the movie ...One Dad said he was happy to spend $ 55 for 3 tickets/3 drinks/2 popcorn to see his wife happy to see "Hugh" and his son happy to see "Wolverine" Jo
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Post by alma on May 24, 2014 22:48:16 GMT -5
To me, that was the most poignant scene, especially if one knows what happened in the past movies!
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Exactly, Jo!
Wouldn't it be great to sit in while Wolverine and the Professor do their catching up?
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Post by alma on May 24, 2014 23:11:10 GMT -5
"I hadn't realized that the Stryker who was part of the team who "rescued" Logan from the Potomac was actually Mystique in disguise, until it struck me that the yellow eyes was not Stryker because it was not he who was the mutant even if his son, Jason, was " Oh, yes Jo! To me that was part of the "happy ending", and opens up great possibilities. "But I still do not fully appreciate why Magneto wanted to kill Logan? Because he wanted personal domination himself and Logan would be an obstacle...and neither did he want to be beholden to/under control by Charles ( who was still trapped underneath the rubble)?" My take, Jo, is that at that point, Magneto had turned against Charles, Beast, Mystique and Logan, and would eliminate them all to go his own way. The only thing that bothers me a little is that Mystique, Charles and Magneto were close in age when young, yet the Professor, and specially Magneto are way older in the other movies. That's when I remember these are Comic Book characters and so it's OK. Alma
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Post by jo on May 24, 2014 23:28:42 GMT -5
Was this an attempt to rewrite that part of XMEN:The Last Stand where he aligned with Jean ( the Dark Phoenix, this time) and other mutants because they did not want a cure for mutants that will change their DNAs? I am not a general comic book fan myself (although I did read many when I was young - but that would require some time travel for me to remember -LOL - I know my favorite then was Wonder Woman )...and the only comic book compilation I have bought lately were The Wolverine ( the Samurai saga) and Days of Future Past. Much like how I want to read film scripts in advance -- it might give me some initial idea of the storyline and characters. It is difficult to get hold of scripts ( although someone on IMDB shared a copy of The Wolverine with me). So, almost all my knowledge of the XMEN characters and their conflicts and journeys are derived from the movies in the franchise. I am not so sure that I want everything erased! But that is just me - maybe a fanboy/fangirl wants something else. I think the term is " retconning"? Or is it something else? Personally, I want to see Hugh simply finish his Wolverine trilogy ( assuming he finds it worth his while) and maybe appear in extended cameos for other XMEN movies ( only because FOX and the franchise needs him), but that would be it! There are many other professional challenges that lie ahead for him!... I have a feeling that he is just being gracious in saying that he still wants to be Wolverine if ... and because Fox may still need him. Also, the three-movie deal for the new leads ( McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence) ends with Apocalypse. Will they want to continue with the franchise? Hmmm... rather doubtful as I see it? We'll see...
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Post by jo on May 25, 2014 4:44:41 GMT -5
Two songs from the soundtrack struck a chord with me, from the movie -- *The most memorable Hugh moment in the movie -- the wakeup scene was accompanied by one of my favorite songs: THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE. The song was supposed to have been around since the late 60's ( written by Pete Seeger) but was popularized in the early 70's by Roberta Flack. But I have found a concert version sung by my favorite singer, Michael Ball -- If you will indulge me -- my favorite actor, my favorite singer, with one of my favorite songs v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzA2Mzg3MDQ=.htmlAnd then there was -- *The hilarious Pentagon Kitchen scene with Quicksilver Michael Ball sings the song which was used as background to Quicksilver's antics : TIME IN A BOTTLE -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PuDCWF1woJo
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Post by mamaleh on May 25, 2014 7:19:22 GMT -5
I loved the "Time in a Bottle" Quicksilver scene; it was so meticulously arranged. Whatever his personal faults, real or fabricated, Bryan Singer can be a very creative, brilliant director.
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Post by alma on May 25, 2014 9:21:29 GMT -5
I love both songs too, Jo. They bring back so many memories. And I agree with you about Bryan Singer, Ellen. When those news about him came out, my first thought was I sure hoped they were false accusations, just somebody's attempt to extract money from him... ... ... And although I can't say I am familiar with all his work, simply because I am not much of a movie goer, the X-Men movies I really like are those directed by Singer. At the end of DOFP we get a taste of the whole gang just like when we fell in love with them! Alma
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Post by jo on May 25, 2014 20:08:31 GMT -5
Ironic that Simon Kinberg who wrote the much-maligned XMEN:The Last Stand ( which Days of Future Past retconned in a big way!) is now explaining what they tried to do with Days of Future Past I guess I am not that much of a fangirl to have hated XMEN-3 -- I found it very entertaining ( and even think the relocating of the Golden Gate Bridge more spectacular than relocating the RFK Stadium in DOFP)! I wasn't particularly impressed with the DOFP finale - it did not make any sense to me to encase the White House with a non-universal icon from DC ( LOL - most overseas fans would not recognize that stadium whereas the Golden Gate is a must-see when one comes to visit SanFran). I thought that the DOFP finale was also too protracted...and when you see how the old geezers Charles and Erik shook hands at the end of the future scenes, you know there would a lot of explaining on how the purely evil Magneto becomes the still-evil but charming Magneto of Ian's interpretation. I look at each movie of this franchise on each own ... and if I enjoyed it, it does not have that much bearing if there are continuity or inconsistency issues - different screenwriters and different directors, even different actors ( e.g., Michael F approached the Magneto role in a very serious/gritty manner while Ian Mckellen added charm and insouciance to his Magneto character)! Maybe it is a generational gap but I don't take the themes and their treatment overly serious ( as fanboys would - sorry!) , so long as it is an entertaining fare or a gut-wrenching dramatic look ( the early part of The Wolverine when he was a hermit). And I would rather read what Bryan Singer had to say -- he has a way of explaining things which are clear and more inspiring for a fan! Jo
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Post by Krista on May 29, 2014 5:30:36 GMT -5
I loved this movie sooooo much! smiley-happy096 I had to see it on Friday in Budapest/Hungary, the cinema was full! Sorry it was sinchronized so I could not hear his sexy voice oh 3D was a little annoying for me because I could not see him clear so I had to see it again without 3D... I didn't think before that he has so big part of this movie!
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