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Aug 1, 2013 19:09:59 GMT -5
Post by alma on Aug 1, 2013 19:09:59 GMT -5
I loved these words from Broadway.com: "Hugh Jackman Won't Let Houdini Escape Hugh Jackman has been touting his planned tuner Houdini from The Wolverine red carpets, and he isn't going to let anything, including the lack of a book writer, stop him from bringing the show to Broadway. The Tony winner said that if the Houdini workshop "goes well," the new musical could end up on the Main Stem next year. If anyone can wave their hands and make a musical magically appear on Broadway, it's definitely Hugh! Who's going to say "no" to the guy who can rock metal claws, gold lamé pants and a wild beard all with the same pizazz?" King of Broadway... cancan Alma
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Aug 15, 2013 18:41:09 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 15, 2013 18:41:09 GMT -5
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Aug 16, 2013 1:27:12 GMT -5
Post by lucky on Aug 16, 2013 1:27:12 GMT -5
Doesn´t alone this point to the direction that Houdini will rather have the out of town try out in Fall 2014, like Jack said some weaks ago? :-( OK, this Guys and Dolls in only for one night, right? So then maybe it means nothing.
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Aug 19, 2013 17:07:45 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 19, 2013 17:07:45 GMT -5
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Aug 24, 2013 16:17:23 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 24, 2013 16:17:23 GMT -5
Can't trace the actual quote and what else Stephen Schwartz might have said -- but this tweet is interesting: Hugh is known for playing characters whom he did not resemble a lot -- *Wolverine is 5'3" ...and has a runty appearance *Valjean was not the noble-looking le Maire in the book, compared to the film M Madeleine *Hugh did not look like Peter Allen, either *Critics said he did not look like a typical cop, when he portrayed Denny in A Steady Rain Alright - he probably had Gaston's big muscles and ladies appeal, but not his braggadocio Hey, "HUGHDINI" -- that is going to stick Jo
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Aug 24, 2013 19:14:49 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 24, 2013 19:14:49 GMT -5
OT - an insight on how Stephen Schwartz works as a musical score composer, via his experience in WICKED. This is the thread on the topic, which includes the link to the very long video of Schwartz and book writer Winnie Holzman re their writing WICKED, and some comments on the creative process and the qualities of Schwartz as a creative talent. www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?thread=1063858&dt=17Very interesting -- esp if you are a musical theatre fan or a great fan of WICKED. *It seems that it was a very, very long and laborious process -- many, many years before they were ready to do the workshops, the tryouts, and the Broadway opening. I am not sure that other musicals ( which are not jukebox musicals or revues) would take this long ( but maybe so?). But as an example, ALWebber seems so much more prolific and can accomplish his multi-projects in much shorter periods of time. But people work to different drumbeats! *One particular comment on the thread struck me about Schwartz's creative abilities. . Hmmm... I am not enamoured with WICKED - but given that it has been the top show on Broadway for the last ten years, it could very well speak of his ability to use his craft to mesmerize an audience? *Stephen is a fascinating personality- he is funny and candid. But what was coming out was that he could be strong-willed, somewhat stubborn and controlling, maybe a muller, but very focused and determined. He does like to work at his own pace -- which means long and laborious months and years before he is happy with anything. The clashes he had with the director ( Mantello) seemed to underscore this. His relationship with bookwriter Holzman seemed positive ( but he seemed to have Holzman completely under his wing), but what if the bookwriter is also uber-talented, strongwilled, and worked at a much faster pace? I am not suggesting that there could have been creative differences with Aaron Sorkin which might have caused the break -- but it could have happened, given Schwartz's seemingly different work persona?? *I wonder how his creative goals and Hugh's own aspirations/practical goals for HOUDINI are now being met?? Jo
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Aug 24, 2013 23:26:44 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 24, 2013 23:26:44 GMT -5
Did Stephen Schwartz and David Ives ( who was mentioned not so long ago by Jack O'Brien as the new book writer for Houdini) really talk about HOUDINI in the Dramatists Guild conference this weekend ?
I gotta find the discussions - maybe BWW might have taped them smiley-computer004
Jo
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Aug 29, 2013 6:46:47 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 29, 2013 6:46:47 GMT -5
Finally, word from Stephen Schwartz himself -- www.kansas.com/2013/08/29/2970552/schwartz-working-on-draft-of-musical.html" 'As soon as we finished it, of course, we immediately said, 'We have to rewrite this entire thing,' Schwartz said. 'But nevertheless we're moving on to try to get a complete draft of the show.' "I laughed at this one, instead of feeling nervous, because if you listened/read that longish interview I posted about Schwartz - he said that the best part of composing a musical is the rewriting! LOL! Jo
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Aug 29, 2013 8:14:00 GMT -5
Post by mamaleh on Aug 29, 2013 8:14:00 GMT -5
I thought the first act was go-ready a while ago. I guess, as Jo pointed out, Schwartz seems to prefer rewriting over writing. Well, as someone who spends more than half her workday writing, I'd opine that rewriting is much more difficult. I wish him luck--and a fire lit under his tush. Let's get this thing going already. Hmmm... "...something...he hasn't really shown before." Obviously a reference to a nude scene: perfect. OK, just wishful thinking. But, hey, Nicole did it for a nanosecond in THE BLUE ROOM; why not another Aussie?) Back to reality: A full reading in December is now confirmed--or at least scheduled. It's getting closer! Ellen
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Aug 29, 2013 8:57:21 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 29, 2013 8:57:21 GMT -5
There is pressure on both sides -- *The fact that he is writing this with Hugh in mind (music and lyrics...and other stuff that Hugh has not done on stage) kind of makes it difficult for Hugh to leave the project if delays are inevitable and he has some very interesting film projects ahead. *Stephen, on the other hand, is under pressure to deliver asap given how tight Hugh's schedule and run availability could be . If you have watched the interview re the development of WICKED - it took him and his team many years to write and rewrite and to put together a Broadway-ready musical. Since Hugh at the moment is on sabbatical from any film project, he will likely be following up on Stephen and David's progress often - LOL! In the meantime - we are all on a wait-and-see starting block Jo
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Aug 29, 2013 9:16:30 GMT -5
Post by carouselkathy on Aug 29, 2013 9:16:30 GMT -5
I thought the first act was go-ready a while ago. I guess, as Jo pointed out, Schwartz seems to prefer rewriting over writing. Well, as someone who spends more than half her workday writing, I'd opine that rewriting is much more difficult. I wish him luck--and a fire lit under his tush. Let's get this thing going already. Hmmm... "...something...he hasn't really shown before." Obviously a reference to a nude scene: perfect. OK, just wishful thinking. But, hey, Nicole did it for a nanosecond in THE BLUE ROOM; why not another Aussie?) Back to reality: A full reading in December is now confirmed--or at least scheduled. It's getting closer! Ellen Amen, Ellen! giggles I'd also like a score that features more of the baritone range we heard in OKLAHOMA!
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Aug 29, 2013 9:47:49 GMT -5
Post by birchie on Aug 29, 2013 9:47:49 GMT -5
I was please & intrigued by that article this morning. I particularly liked seeing these bits: "I'm specifically writing for Hugh in terms of what I think will sound good in his voice and what sorts of things will really help him to do the things that he does,"... ...So far, the fun, he said, has been writing music and lyrics with Jackman in mind. Schwartz said he's considering "Where does he want to stretch himself? Where does he want to do something that he feels he has and we feel he has that he hasn't really shown before?" That could make for a very interesting and enjoyable night at the theater! And it certainly is beginning to sound like a dream role for a performer like Hugh to sink his teeth into! I really hope this all gets done in a timely fashion for Hugh. Since he's only going to be more in demand once Prisoners opens, based on all the early buzz which is so high on the film. Then we seem to have new life being given to Unbound Captives so Hugh's window of opportunity for Houdini is looking fairly narrow. For me I hope it definitely happens next year. It's a show that I will somehow find a way to get to see live! ...I'm not above bribery with my boys! Sue
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Aug 29, 2013 10:25:37 GMT -5
Post by mamaleh on Aug 29, 2013 10:25:37 GMT -5
Quote from Carousel Kathy: Amen, Ellen! giggles I'd also like a score that features more of the baritone range we heard in OKLAHOMA! [/quote]
Yes, I've stated this before, but I truly believe Joan Lader has damaged Hugh's voice or hopefully just temporarily misdirected it. I'd love it, too, if he abandoned the head voice and returned to the virile, full, chest-voice baritone he displayed so beautifully in OKLAHOMA! and even when first learning to sing as Gaston in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.
Ellen
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Aug 29, 2013 11:07:55 GMT -5
Post by birchie on Aug 29, 2013 11:07:55 GMT -5
Quote from Carousel Kathy: Amen, Ellen! giggles I'd also like a score that features more of the baritone range we heard in OKLAHOMA! Yes, I've stated this before, but I truly believe Joan Lader has damaged Hugh's voice or hopefully just temporarily misdirected it. I'd love it, too, if he abandoned the head voice and returned to the virile, full, chest-voice baritone he displayed so beautifully in OKLAHOMA! and even when first learning to sing as Gaston in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST. Ellen [/quote] Double amen!!! Bring back the beautiful chest voice baritone we love!!! Sue
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Aug 29, 2013 20:45:21 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 29, 2013 20:45:21 GMT -5
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Aug 29, 2013 23:25:32 GMT -5
Post by carouselkathy on Aug 29, 2013 23:25:32 GMT -5
Hughey, "May the Schwartz be with you."
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Aug 30, 2013 0:05:18 GMT -5
Post by jo on Aug 30, 2013 0:05:18 GMT -5
For "an actor who just fell into singing" ( Hugh's own words) - Hugh must feel very flattered --
*The composers of one of the biggest stage and movie musicals ( Les Mesirables) Schonberg, Boublil, and Kretzmer wrote a song for him for the film adaptation - SUDDENLY!
*The composer of one of Broadway's biggest hits ( Wicked -- 10 years and running...at the top!), Stephen Schwartz, is now writing a musical with Hugh in mind - music and lyrics to suit Hugh's talent and stage presence!
Jo
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Aug 30, 2013 7:31:24 GMT -5
Post by mamaleh on Aug 30, 2013 7:31:24 GMT -5
Schwartz, incredibly, has never won the Tony for Best Score. (I still prefer the WICKED score to AVENUE Q's, which won in 2004.) Maybe the combo of all those talents will pay off for HOUDINI's creators (and star, please!) in the not-too-distant future.
Ellen
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Aug 30, 2013 20:49:11 GMT -5
Post by Kelly on Aug 30, 2013 20:49:11 GMT -5
Quote from Carousel Kathy: Amen, Ellen! giggles I'd also like a score that features more of the baritone range we heard in OKLAHOMA! Yes, I've stated this before, but I truly believe Joan Lader has damaged Hugh's voice or hopefully just temporarily misdirected it. I'd love it, too, if he abandoned the head voice and returned to the virile, full, chest-voice baritone he displayed so beautifully in OKLAHOMA! and even when first learning to sing as Gaston in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST. Ellen Double amen!!! Bring back the beautiful chest voice baritone we love!!! Sue[/quote] I completely agree! Though soft in texture, Bethlehem Morning is also an example. He is still overly influenced by the Peter Allen character, particularly evident in his nasal tones during the one man show audience interaction segments. PA's character gave him the freedom to interact with the audience, realizing a new aspect of his talents. I think he reverts back to Peter, consciously or subconsciously, as a comfort level. I adored TBFO the play, Hugh's acting and singing and the unforgettable experience of attending 6 performances including the final show, knowing I was witnessing the birth of a major super star. I may be alone on this board, but I was quite disappointed with the singing choices he made for Les Mis and feel those choices impacted his chances of winning the Oscar. Let’s hope he figures all this out and makes a concerted effort to return to his vocal roots. Read more: ozalots.proboards.com/posts/recent#ixzz2dVVKVS1u
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Aug 31, 2013 11:48:19 GMT -5
Post by juliefoz on Aug 31, 2013 11:48:19 GMT -5
I would love to see this project come to fruition in 2014! Question for my Broadway-savvy friends: How long does an out-of-town tryout generally last?
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Aug 31, 2013 12:10:15 GMT -5
Post by mamaleh on Aug 31, 2013 12:10:15 GMT -5
Hi, Julie! I've noticed lately that out-of-town tryouts seem to run 3-5 weeks, the latest example being BIG FISH in Chicago from April 2-May 5. I wonder if HOUDINI will "Hugh" to that standard.
Ellen
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Sept 16, 2013 21:34:16 GMT -5
Post by jo on Sept 16, 2013 21:34:16 GMT -5
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Sept 19, 2013 2:32:06 GMT -5
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Sept 19, 2013 15:09:21 GMT -5
Post by jo on Sept 19, 2013 15:09:21 GMT -5
Interesting! I wonder if Hugh and Stephen are actively communicating on this -LOL! Will Hugh now consider doing another movie in the meantime? He has been mentioning another musical as something that could happen next year - but this time, another movie musical. He has mentioned that the project GREATEST SHOWMAN ON EARTH ( on P.T. Barnum) is finally getting off the ground and could be a possible project next year. Hmmm... I wonder, is Hugh definitely committed to Houdini? It seems strange to have two musical projects one after another in the works, especially now that he is getting some great reviews for his dramatic turn in PRISONERS??? Could HOUDINI fall by the wayside, as far as he is concerned? Or could it also take the route of PRISONERS - he was committed to do it in 2009, dropped out of the project, then came back in 2012 with a change of director. We don't know what kind of script offers he may be considering these days. If it happens for Hugh, I hope HOUDINI is worth the wait. No offense meant - but I have never been a fan of WICKED or can even remember any Schwartz song that much, except for the ubiquitous, shrieking Defying Gravity ...Oops, I forgot "Meadowlark" from The Baker's Wife which I do like a lot! Here's Stephen's songbook list -- www.stephenschwartz.com/music/song-list/We'll see... Jo
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Sept 19, 2013 19:20:56 GMT -5
Post by jo on Sept 19, 2013 19:20:56 GMT -5
Hugh himself, according to the UK Daily Mail Baz Bamigboye, has confirmed the delayed opening -- www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2426045/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Im-going-fired--Cate-Blanchett-spent-week-thinking-going-axed-Woody-Allen.htmlSo, either fall of 2014 or spring of 2015 on Broadway?? I'd bet more on a spring opening, in time for the June 2015 TONYs! But unbelievable development time for this musical -- Hugh was already talking about the play being rewritten in 2009, so work must have started on this much earlier. If it opens in 2015, that could be about 7 years or so in development before it gets to Broadway!! Yikes! Okay, who is going to London?? I wish! Next -- let us speculate on his next film project, while he waits for the ever-protracted Houdini to get completed. Another dramatic turn? Maybe a movie musical ( Greatest Showman on Earth? Six Years by Corben? Even Unbound Captives, assuming a studio picks it up - which I honestly think will only happen if the director is replaced - the western is not box office gold anymore and it needs a top helmer to get it greenlit)...Or something out of the blue?? Jo ( not too happy about developments on Houdini )
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