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Post by luzie on Sept 28, 2019 12:06:20 GMT -5
Well, I am a Wolverine fan! And Real Steel still belongs to my favorite movies. I've never belonged to those - unfortunately some of his fans, too - who dissed the film beforeand.
I don't blame HIM or diss him for his career choices!! He probably cherry-picks and makes the best of what he gets offered. I just don't believe he receives too many challenging roles in comparison to some usual suspects who partly work with the same acclaimed directors again and again. In a few of his interviews one could read it between the lines, too. All in all he hasn't made enough movies over the years IMO. I know you disagree and will bring up his stage work, his family and all kind of explanations.
I've said it before, fine for you, that you have the means to come to New York and see his shows - for most fans it's simply not possible!
I think about his career in a more "thoughtful manner" and don't sugarcoat everything. And excuse me, that I don't express my "dislikes" - or rather my worries - in a "more positive way"!!! I don't do it, because I wish him bad luck or are annoyed with him, but because I'd like to see him and his work for as many years as possible and hope he finally receives all the accolades he deserves - hence I'm a bit worried that his movie career might be on a decline, if he is too long away and misses too many opportunities.
That's it for me here on this subject!
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Post by jo on Sept 28, 2019 12:27:11 GMT -5
I agree with you that he has not had the opportunity to be tied in with a well-known film director/auteur. He may have worked with Nolan or Aronofsky or Oscar winner Tom Hooper, or budding auteur Villeneuve, etc., but they were for one movie each only. Not really continuing relationships. But his work with Mangold ( who is getting more and more recognized in Hollywood now) has been promising ( and hopefully there will be some other future collaborations)… And yes, it seems that he does not really receive very many choice roles - as he says, he is sometimes even a second choice. But 2017 was an extraordinary year for him - with the success of LOGAN and THE GREATEST SHOWMAN!
But within the ambit of his appeal to Hollywood movers and shakers ( mostly directors like Tarantino who has DiCaprio and Pitt, Scorcese who has DiCaprio, Spielberg with his choice actors, the famous trio of Mexican directors, even Villeneuve has Gyllenhaal, etc - but one does not apply with them to be given a role even if maybe his agent sounds them off -- they do their own choosing!) -- he does get only the occasional choice roles. That he took the path towards stardom, not in many character roles, but has been identified more for his Wolverine role than anything else... is maybe the pragmatic approach that he had to take.
For one, he is not an American actor who grew up in Hollywood movies ( like LeoD or even a a Welsh actor like Bale who grew up in Hollywood, etc) - he was plucked from the London stage to be in a comic book adaptation that made him a household name but not as a dramatic actor. Maybe that is the price?
But he came back to his roots in the theatre where both musical theatre and dramatic roles may have given him professional satisfaction. After all, it has been universally said that the theatre is an actor's medium vs film which is the director's medium!
After giving up the Wolverine role, he is now trodding a different path in his film roles- first, he took in 2 indies ( very well-praised for his performance in an almost revelatory way) but the box office impact for the first was abysmal and the second now finds its way to the small screen. But hopefully Reminiscence can be more promising in terms of appeal and manner of film distribution.
This has been an excellent year for Hugh, though --
*Getting recognized with a Grammy for his spillover work from The Greatest Showman
*There is also a widening public perception of his versatility ( especially with the contrasting work he did for Logan and Greatest Showman...and more recently with his work on Bad Education).
*Being received in a very successful way for his tour ( excellent reviews, repeat patronage, and financial results which could hover in the $ 90 million territory after the tour ends).
*Getting profuse praise for his work in Bad Education, with people saying that he could walk away with an Emmy next year ( although I am holding on to some hope that HBO MAX will follow the path of other streamers and the movie gets at least a limited release).
*An exciting new film project right after he ends his tour ( Reminiscence/Jade Earring) - with a bit of the famous Nolan clan touch, perhaps? And the writer-director Lisa Joy-Nolan did say she wrote the character with only one actor in mind - Hugh Jackman! Lisa's husband and co-producer is the co-screenwriter of brother Chris Nolan. It has been picked up for distribution by Warner Bros.
*An announcement of his return to Broadway in an event-type production of a revival of The Music Man! Ticket sales have started ( and very successfully) in a hitherto unheard of conditions of no-theatre-has-been-named and the ticket sale is a-year-ahead-of-previews. It is also being produced by one of Broadway and Hollywood's ( Social Network/ No Country for Old Men/ True Grit/ Revolutionary Road/ The Hours/ etc,). most successful producers ( an EGOT to his name)
Let's hope his future projects continue to have a good measure of success.
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Post by pebbles on Sept 29, 2019 23:17:58 GMT -5
All true, he has had a lot of "B" films. I've never really felt connected with his authenticity in film (except Logan) the same way that I have with the theater experience. I feel he emotes almost too much on film as if trying to reach the back of the house, to the degree that it has made me uncomfortable on occasion, particularly in Les Mis. I've often wondered whether it is more difficult for a stage actor to translate to film than a film actor to stage. I believe he was born to be on stage, it is clearly his first love, he is masterful and touches me deeply in that venue.
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Post by jo on Sept 30, 2019 0:39:15 GMT -5
Yes, there is some truth to your observation, pebbles And you can glean it from the way his portrayal in Bad Education has been described -- paraphrasing : *"HJ is not known for subtlety in his portrayal till now" but you could sense the feeling that those who have seen the movie are reacting to his portrayal as different - no longer as movie star but as film actor! But it is how impressed the top critics ( who have hitherto not been fans of his acting) that drives home the point of his evolution as an actor. Variety's Chief Film Critic Owen Gleiberman did not do the review of BAD EDUCATION, but in a summary of the best TIFF movies, he said that " HJ has become an audacious actor" ( which I understand to mean that he has now become more compelling with his film acting choices and which he delivers) and summarizes the film as one which characterizes HJ as "one of the most bracing actors" ("bracing" referring to being "fresh and invigorating" ? ). Another top and many times an unforgiving top critic is Indiewire's David Erlich ( boy, did he diss Greatest Showman with such sarcasm, while acknowledging Hugh Jackman's ability to sell anything!) but this time has only praise for Hugh. RogerEbert.com editor ( A much-respected review site), Brian Tallerico, now praises HJ's performance in Bad Education as one of the best at TIFF! Top critic A.A.Dowd of AVClub calls his portrayal in Bad Education as " Hugh Jackman - in one of his most intelligent and complicated performances"), a description rarely bestowed on HJ. LOGAN did draw attention to HJ's acting -- Peter Travers of Rolling Stone ( who always speaks his own mind, calling Greatest Showman a " shrill blast of nothing" and rating it 1.5 of 4 stars) ) has described Hugh's portrayal as "has never been better or more emotionally alive" and this despite the violent R-rated tone of the movie. I like the way he writes that "LOGAN earns its tears!" My own favorite moments from his acting -- is when he does not speak or shout but when his face is in repose and he acts with his eyes only. Thus -- *In Prisoners -- what impressed me was not the scene in the car with Jake G or the very violent hammer scene … but when he saw the bloodied sock of his daughter and he starts to tremble and then the tears well up in his eyes *In Les Misérables -- the Valjean Soliloquy is always highlighted as his best acting moments - but if I could pick what was the most subtle transformation and showed the beginning of redemption was when the Bishop tells him that he failed to take the silver and Valjean, with his eyes and face moving (but not talking) was showing the feeling of shock at this kindness...and was having an inner war within himself if this could be! And that time in "Suddenly", when he sang the song like a lullaby... *On stage, maybe one of the reasons why A Steady Rain is a favorite with me -- is one of the final scenes. He was already spent physically, emotionally, mentally -- and he sat down by the stage front with Daniel Craig reminiscing the childhood ties which bound them together. I was lucky to have seen the show on front or second row a number of times, so I could see every detail on the actors faces. At one point, his character must have been so touched by the recollections because tears welled up...and I could see a solitary tear coursing down his cheek. He sat there not moving, but letting the emotion overcome him through that solitary tear. And this happened every time I saw the show ( 4 times) -- I could not believe it! Okay - why does he create the impression that he is too strong a presence on screen and make people ( like you) feel that it must be the stage training that takes over? I think, in all honesty, that it is his physical presence that over-emphasizes it. He has a very masculine aura ( and his height and build ...and even his finely-chiseled face … tend to overemphasize it) and this creates the impression of too much forceful acting! Maybe so! That is why he is very good as Wolverine ( you can almost feel the undercurrent, by him simply standing there)... He is not an actor who always looks as if he is brooding! If you take a more puny-looking actor like Robert Downey or Jake Gyllenhaal and they do something similar - it just does not seem as too forceful or threatening! Another interesting actor quality in Hugh -- he has such a vocal range ( speaking voice-wise) -- he can sound very seductive, tender, funny, stern, frightening, uber-violent) and that adds up to this impression that his acting is too defined by too strong an impression that he creates on screen! Not meaning to diss any actor - I just wanted to make a comparison. It is interesting that Downey himself was quoted how impressed he was with how Jackman delivered Angier's dying monologue in The Prestige. He said that it was one of the most difficult that an actor may be asked to portray and deliver. I have also read comments about noted actors like Bale criticized for his one-note acting ( always the same brooding presence)… but to each his own taste. So, starting with the 2 indies that Hugh decided to use as his experiment towards moving on the actor's "path not taken" (Sorry, Robert Frost!), we may be seeing that side of Hugh that loves acting and is trying to improve himself with each portrayal! Btw, I have read the first draft of the Reminiscence (Jade Earring) script -- and it is going to be quite an acting challenge. It is described as a romantic sci-fi thriller, but I hope director cum screenwriter Lisa Joy-Nolan steers Hugh towards more of a character portrayal compared to the overall canvass of the storytelling. After all, she has said in public that she wrote the character with only ONE actor in mind : Hugh Jackman! Jo
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Post by jo on Sept 30, 2019 1:28:16 GMT -5
Having said all that -- and this veers away from the topic of Film roles... I do wonder what "fresh and invigorating" impression will he create in THE MUSIC MAN that will make audiences feel that he is different from... and can take head on... the iconic Robert Preston portrayal ? Will it be a more charming and more romantic interpretation ( which can be helped by his own personal qualities)? Or will it be the opposite - a more startling/mesmerizing ( as if the townspeople are put under a spell by his bad boy persona) portrayal? Just wondering -- it could even be a complete surprise Jo
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Post by luzie on Sept 30, 2019 4:28:59 GMT -5
All true, he has had a lot of "B" films. I've never really felt connected with his authenticity in film (except Logan) the same way that I have with the theater experience. I feel he emotes almost too much on film as if trying to reach the back of the house, to the degree that it has made me uncomfortable on occasion, particularly in Les Mis. I've often wondered whether it is more difficult for a stage actor to translate to film than a film actor to stage. I believe he was born to be on stage, it is clearly his first love, he is masterful and touches me deeply in that venue. To each his own, but I completely disagree! No offence, but I regard this as a diss of his acting skills! Frankly, you sound more like all those critics and haters, who diss his acting as "over-acting", than as a fan who asserts "to love him". Apparently you belong to the privileged people who can afford his shows on Broadway and you prefer theatre to movies, fine, but there is no reason to bash his acting in his movies - on top of that in a public fan board. Most of his movies are B films??? Seriously?? I in particular love his more calmer and nonverbal scenes in movies like in Front Runner, or the scene in Prisoners, that Jo has mentioned, or his worried facial expression in Les Miserables when he meets Javert again and has to worry that he recognizes him, or his crying scene in The Fountain etc. ... etc. ... etc. ..There are enough of this kind of scenes in all of his movies - you only have to be open-minded enough to watch them! I don't mind, if you don't like one or two of his films, it's your personal taste. Or if you prefer his stage work. But to bash his acting in his movies in general - as a so-called FAN! - is inacceptable for me! It's actually an insult! I also like some of his movies more than a few others, but HE has never disappointed me with his performances!
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Post by jo on Oct 8, 2019 7:17:32 GMT -5
This is particularly thought-provoking!! Is this for a new film role? http://instagram.com/p/B3WvI8pHRU3 Why the language if this is just for a product ad? Of course, I am just guessing wildly -LOL! Jo
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Post by jo on Nov 6, 2019 18:07:16 GMT -5
Not even a rumor -- but Mike Fleming of Deadline.com adds this idea as part of his wishful thinking list deadline.com/2019/11/the-bee-gees-movie-anthony-mccarten-writing-bohemian-rhapsody-the-two-popes-paramount-1202778266/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees Hugh can do pop/rock... and we do not know if there is also an emphasis on any dramatic underpinnings to the Bee Gees story! There might be an age-appropriateness issue raised by some, but if Hugh plays Barry Gibb from his 30's and into his older age ...and depending on the storyline...and if old friend/boss Jim Gianopulos wants that casting ( and Stacey Snider is part of the SISTER Company headed by Elizabeth Murdoch) - why ever not Most importantly -- Hugh is an Aussie! The Gibbs brothers were born in England but were raised and became popular in Australia first. But Hugh won't be free from July( start rehearsals) to Sept 2021 for The Music Man. Unless the film project is ready to roll by late winter 2020? But the script has not been written, so... Jo
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Post by jo on Nov 6, 2019 19:15:53 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Jun 20, 2020 5:02:40 GMT -5
WOW! Great and exhilarating news!! Hugh Jackman and a dramatic episode in the life of ENZO FERRARI! deadline.com/2020/06/hugh-jackman-ferrari-michael-mann-movie-stx-amazon-cannes-1202962040/#comment-2840315"Sono una tifosa della FERRARI!" ( Hopefully, that is still how " I am a fan of Ferrari!" translates)... First sentence I learned when I went on a tour of Italy years ago! I have been to 3 Formula-1 races ( Monaco/Montreal) and have cheered for the team of The PRANCING HORSE since way back! I was lucky to have seen Michael Schumacher race in those 3 times I have been to an F-1 race. This is NOT a biopic of the legendary ENZO FERRARI -- but a dramatic episode later in his life! That Hugh Jackman will get to portray him in this interesting episode of his life -- what more could I ask for?!!For one, we don't know when The Music Man will actually open on Broadway. Some realistic guesses it could be as late as fall of 2021...who knows, it could even be later. But this would be a great opportunity for Hugh to move in another direction in his film career while awaiting the turn of events on Broadway! Not bad, too -- Michael Mann is a 4-time Oscar nominee for directing work. Bit of gossipy speculations on my part -- First time that it is only CAA which is packaging the project. Maybe because it is AMAZON ( Bezos territory) which is expected to finance the project... and that's why WME is out of the picture? Anyway - can you all see that I am very excited over this piece of news! Jo
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Post by jo on Aug 27, 2020 11:43:17 GMT -5
No, no - there are no film rumors.
But film sites are batting for a remake idea when Hugh was supposed to have said (in jest) that he is willing to do a comedy cum action movie, the remake of FACE OFF ( originally starring Travolta and NCage).
Hmm...
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Post by njr on Aug 27, 2020 18:05:04 GMT -5
I would definitely pay good money to see those two remake Face/Off! I loved the original!
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Post by jo on Apr 2, 2021 19:20:37 GMT -5
Cinemablend puts up a feature on future Hugh Jackman film/stage projects www.cinemablend.com/news/2565025/upcoming-hugh-jackman-movies?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterHowever, only REMINISCENCE and THE MUSIC MAN are definite. The FERRARI project has been reported recently by The Hollywood Reporter as in further development. Longtime project announcements such as THE GOOD SPY ( the director has moved on to other projects) and APOSTLE PAUL seem no longer feasible. Hope I am wrong and the last two can still survive the long development cycle. Jo
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Post by jo on Apr 14, 2021 9:51:52 GMT -5
If I may, hughmanity It is a New York-based story. It will likely start filming when the pandemic situation eases even more towards summer? Rehearsals for The Music Man will likely not happen till October? Jo
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Post by jo on Apr 14, 2021 9:55:34 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Apr 14, 2021 10:03:43 GMT -5
Of course, Hugh confirms the project
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Post by jo on Mar 8, 2022 23:05:16 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Mar 8, 2022 23:19:36 GMT -5
One other link in real life --
The eldest girl (among 3) admiring ATOM in REAL STEEL --
she is now Hugh's PA for The Music Man on Broadway--
Sophie Levy (Barnard grad), eldest daughter of Shawn Levy!
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Post by jo on Mar 8, 2022 23:28:01 GMT -5
Hmm... it will likely be a comedy. Hopefully, it is a road comedy turned thriller! Maybe Blake Lively in the movie, too? Or since Shawn featured Hugh as King Arthur in that CAMELOT cameo on Night at the Museum 3 -- maybe a bit of song and dance between mates Hugh and Ryan Jo
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Post by jo on Jul 7, 2022 17:25:31 GMT -5
Speculation or in the works?
*It is listed on IMDB...but it is classified as IN DEVELOPMENT. Last updating was Feb 2019 (pre-pandemic).
*Has the project been updated now?
*Has the supposed cast been approached for the project?
Btw, here is a synopsis from the IMDB listing --
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Post by jo on Jul 10, 2022 0:14:42 GMT -5
PITTWATER author replied to my inquiry on project status --
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