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Post by mamaleh on Sept 8, 2017 21:31:29 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, tickets for Bette Midler in HELLO, DOLLY! went on sale at least 6-7 months before previews were slated to begin. Then again, that was considered a super-hot ticket. Somehow I don't see demand for this revival in the same category. But maybe producers are following suit with that successful model, hoping to stimulate interest beginning many months out. We'll see how that turns out for a show without a superstar whose name would draw tourists.
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Post by carouselkathy on Sept 8, 2017 22:06:38 GMT -5
Rene Fleming is an opera superstar, so maybe that's one thing they're considering. Jesse Mueller won a Tony for playing Carol King. Maybe they're just giving me plenty of time to decide how many times i want to see it.
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Post by mamaleh on Sept 8, 2017 23:45:06 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Sept 8, 2017 23:57:12 GMT -5
Too bad that the Jackman film remake project never took off for CAROUSEL. He already had a contemporized script and he did send the script to one director. He also shared that he had initial support from Fox 2000 ( Fox subsidiary for small-budget film projects). And didn't he also try to reach out to Anne Hathaway for the project?
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Post by carouselkathy on Sept 9, 2017 13:24:56 GMT -5
A lost opportunity. Too bad.
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Post by mamaleh on Sept 11, 2017 12:11:08 GMT -5
Kathy, if you haven't ordered CAROUSEL tickets yet, I came across a Theatermania discount code--though it doesn't seem much of a discount: Code is CATHM909. Orch is $125; select front mezz $119-125; and rear mezz is $59-79.
Seems like the rear mezz "discount" is more like regular price.
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Post by carouselkathy on Sept 11, 2017 12:32:56 GMT -5
Thanks, Ellen!
I posted this on Facebook, but it's Broadway related and I have to brag. My cousin just won an Emmy in the hair and makeup category for the show HAIRSPRAY LIVE. I'm guessing that we might get a glimpse of her on the regular Emmy Broadcast. I'm so happy for her!
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Post by mamaleh on Sept 11, 2017 13:23:53 GMT -5
Yes, I saw that. How wonderful. Congratulations to your cousin. My daughter was once nominated for a Creative Arts Emmy as part of a writing team but they lost. . Winning is much better. Ellen
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Post by carouselkathy on Sept 11, 2017 15:32:57 GMT -5
Keeping an eye on the casting for MY FAIR LADY at Lincoln Center this spring. Bartlett Sher is going to be a busy director!
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Post by jo on Feb 8, 2018 20:27:01 GMT -5
Re WEST SIDE STORY
Interesting Twitter exchange --
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Post by carouselkathy on Apr 4, 2019 18:06:00 GMT -5
I've been reading about the new revival of OKLAHOMA! I believe it's playing in Brooklyn. The photos show a multi-racial cast. Looks like Ado Annie is in a wheelchair, and there are croc pots sitting on a picnic table at what I assume to be the box social. It looks interesting! Has anyone heard about it? Going to see it? Is it considered an out-of -town try-out? Will it be eligible for Broadway? Off Broadway?
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Post by jo on Apr 4, 2019 21:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by mamaleh on Apr 5, 2019 9:13:19 GMT -5
I read the OKLAHOMA! spoilers. Yikes! Talk about dark.
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Post by jo on Apr 5, 2019 18:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by njr on Apr 6, 2019 12:54:44 GMT -5
I assume you’re referring to the first photo? Aren’t you being a bit prudish? This is 2019, not 1952. The production is clearly a modern version, not 1906 as the original was.
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Post by jo on Apr 6, 2019 17:59:02 GMT -5
Not the costume per se! Lol- I am not being literal ... I was talking of the production itself ( and as reflected in the costumes). Hey, the story happens at the time when Oklahoma! was not even part of the union, if I remember correctly. Certain historical facts cannot be overlooked if it is important to the storytelling. I think that was one of the reasons why Trevor Nunn did some history lessons for Hugh and the rest of the RNT cast ( I think only about 2 of the key cast were Americans) to give them an informed view of the story they were telling and the characters they will be portraying. In the stage musical Oklahoma!, there was emphasis on the grit of the people who initially settled in the area, more or less, and how the relationship among those settlers was not always perfect. These days - are there conflicts between the farmers and the cowmen?!! That was one of the impressive musical numbers which opened Act 2! Did they change the lyrics to showcase modern age opponents ( like the businessmen and the social justice warriors)?? Putting a very modern slant to those portrayals makes it almost a different story. Have you read the spoilers from that ATC thread? If you have, would you prefer to see that portrayal of the characters there? Sorry, not my cup of tea ( I know - using that phrase makes me sound old- fashioned - but sometimes those things makes the message very clear!). I have had a previous experience with some level of theatre experimentation (to a large degree). I had looked forward so much to a Broadway revival of JULIUS CAESAR! We studied the play in high school ( very impressed with the language of Antony and Brutus in their oratory). I even rewatched the movie adaptation with Marlon Brando ( Antony) and James Mason ( Brutus). I was not prepared to have been confronted with a completely different look at the play when I saw the revival with Denzel Washington ( playing Brutus). Where were the hallowed Roman Senate Halls, with their toga-clad wise men of the Roman Empire? Instead I see a sleek corporate boardroom with dark-suited men from the Executive Suite, clashing with each other in "the age-old conflict among men seeking power" ( albeit that could have been the thematic slant that the creatives had been inspired with ). Not only that, Denzel ( whom I had looked so much forward to seeing on stage) proved to be a disappointing Brutus - he did not have the elegance and eloquence of the Shakespearean portrayal by James Mason - maybe that was why he did not get a TONY nod for this much-awaited Broadway role for him). To add to my dumbfoundedness - what they chose to show as armed conflict ( among the warriors of the time of the Roman Empire) were the khaki clad soldiers of Desert Storm and their Middle East warrior-opponents! Sorry, I could not get my head around the "modernized" version of such a great classic! At intermission - it seems I was not the only one who had a disappointing experience. My seat neighbor, a regular playgoer ( not a fan of musicals) and her college-age kids expressed their disappointment at what we had seen in the first act ( she burst out with " Why oh why is Denzel talking like that - in a Shakespeare play ??!!). Back to Oklahoma! - this version may be challenging for the modernist among playgoers, but I am not sold on it, sorry to say! Must be my traditionalist orientation when it comes to art ( although I must admit to becoming more accepting of some modern art - post-impressionism age - these days!) Jo
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Post by njr on Apr 7, 2019 12:57:10 GMT -5
Well, you totally misunderstood me and gave an unnecessary long-winded answer. I was referring to the photo where the guy is sitting in the lap of the woman in the wheelchair. I thought that was what bothered you. Not anything to do with the costumes or the production itself.
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Post by carouselkathy on Apr 7, 2019 14:59:41 GMT -5
I have no problem with changes in staging. For example, I've heard of Oklahoma! being staged as a preface to the dustbowl migration of the 1930's. Having flirty "Ado Annie" in a wheelchair is an interesting idea. At the end of GREEN GROW THE LILACS, the play by Linn Riggs on which OKLAHOMA! is based, "Curly" goes to jail for killing Jud. Rodgers & Hammerstein decided to keep the dark side of the "Jud" death, but free "Curly" with a plea of self-defense. The dark side to the story was ground breaking in 1943. However, this new revival version, which I understand will be moving to Circle in the Square, seems to be straying a bit far from the original concept. It will be interesting to see if there are any changes between now and the final version of this revival.
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2019 18:21:03 GMT -5
I assume you’re referring to the first photo? Aren’t you being a bit prudish? This is 2019, not 1952. The production is clearly a modern version, not 1906 as the original was. Well, you totally misunderstood me and gave an unnecessary long-winded answer. I was referring to the photo where the guy is sitting in the lap of the woman in the wheelchair. I thought that was what bothered you. Not anything to do with the costumes or the production itself. To each his own...one may want to contradict a post for not agreeing with the opinion...but I would not criticize how someone personally reacts to an artistic endeavor. PS: Please ignore all my posts if they bother you. Jo
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2019 19:02:54 GMT -5
I have no problem with changes in staging. For example, I've heard of Oklahoma! being staged as a preface to the dustbowl migration of the 1930's. Having flirty "Ado Annie" in a wheelchair is an interesting idea. At the end of GREEN GROW THE LILACS, the play by Linn Riggs on which OKLAHOMA! is based, "Curly" goes to jail for killing Jud. Rodgers & Hammerstein decided to keep the dark side of the "Jud" death, but free "Curly" with a plea of self-defense. The dark side to the story was ground breaking in 1943. However, this new revival version, which I understand will be moving to Circle in the Square, seems to be straying a bit far from the original concept. It will be interesting to see if there are any changes between now and the final version of this revival. Yes, it is interesting how emphasis can change in any staging. In the Rodgers and Hammerstein version ( maybe because the play was one of the first ones which drew national interest as it was presented only a few years after the difficult days of World War 2), they presented the story to emphasize that it was self-defense ( Jud brought a weapon to the wedding, with a likely murderous intention...and even provoked the reaction of Curly when he tried to kiss Laurey, which in the revised staging showed her with a completely different and pleasurable reaction to the kiss). What was not right, strictly speaking, was how they railroaded the trial process in the R&H version ( even if the trial might produce the same appreciation of facts and result in the same verdict). Probably what R&H wanted to do was to emphasize more that, in the end, what was important was the feeling of patriotism as Oklahoma prepared to join the United States of America? How do you segue from what may seem to be an unfair guilty verdict... with the need to end the show in a very positive light? Dark sides can be explored, in some cases more pointedly than in other attempts. I think what Trevor Nunn did was to explore more deeply the character of Jud ( compared to the movie version with Rod Steiger) and to give the audience a deeper look at why he did what he did. Was the intention of director Daniel Fish to show simply a different interpretation? In the light of modern day times, especially as they affect social justice issues? Perhaps? But is that what I would like to view this story? To be honest -- what I liked was how Rodgers and Hammerstein viewed it and how they wrote their musical score around that kind of interpretation. Will their songs completely fit the Fish version? Such as singing about the conflict between the farmers and the cowmen in Fish's more modern-day version. To me, that is key -- including whether the songs did fit the characters and the storytelling background. Maybe Fish should have hired different songwriters to depict the Lynn Riggs version more? Thanks, Kathy for sharing your views. As you would have seen in the ATC discussions, the views are very divided. Maybe art is meant to be like that, for many? Jo
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2019 19:40:15 GMT -5
Or R&H could have extended the show and shown the trial process, with the same NOT GUILTY verdict...then segue to the finale with the rousing Oklahoma! song reprise! But since the original R&H production was already very long ( the Trevor Nunn staging was 3 hours long, if I am not mistaken) - the audience might get a little tired to sit through all that. Just a thought that came across me - even if I am second-guessing the musical geniuses Jo
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2019 20:23:05 GMT -5
LOL - Rex Reed can be cantankerous in some of his critiques -- but his writeup here is almost hilarious in tone, albeit there are true moments where one ponders on what the value of this production can be.
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Post by jo on Apr 7, 2019 20:54:13 GMT -5
This is how The Hollywood Reporter sees it -- David Rooney is a theatre and film critic for THR. Does he write also from the dark-side-of-movies perspective here? This is the review David Rooney wrote of THE GREATEST SHOWMAN -- www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/greatest-showman-film-1067827Excerpts -- He starts his review with this assessment -- And he concludes with this summary --
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