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Post by jo on Dec 13, 2019 20:18:04 GMT -5
The traitor!!
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Post by jo on Dec 13, 2019 20:44:15 GMT -5
Sorry, but the traitor Stein has stirred up the hornet nest once again  |
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Post by jo on Dec 13, 2019 20:54:34 GMT -5
I hope others follow suit --
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 10:27:19 GMT -5
http://instagram.com/p/B6Fxth9nWbs Are the striped pants part of Prof Harold Hill's full marching band regalia   Could Hugh have been at a costume fitting for THE MUSIC MAN - although it is still nine months away  Jo |
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Post by njr on Dec 15, 2019 12:59:01 GMT -5
Pulleese! They’re just sweatpants! 🙄
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 16:08:59 GMT -5
Peut etre!! LOL! But it doesn't stop people from trying to imagine that Harold Hill is coming, especially since Hugh is referring to a show which successfully opened at the now-controversial Winter Garden Jo |
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 16:25:13 GMT -5
Two things --
*The Music Man is starting previews in September 2020 and officially opening on October 15, 2020, not in January ( presumably 2020) as indicated in the article. Unless "When The Music Man finally does announce that it is moving into the Winter Garden in January, few will be surprised" quoted in the article simply refers to the formal announcement of The Music Man moving to the WG?
*The Music Man did not start selling seats until the landlord, the Shubert Organization, gave BJuice a stop-clause notice ( in June, after the TONYs). Single ticket sales were entertained only in September 2019. Eviction notice was given to BJuice on October 1.
Why did Warner Bros, lead producer for BJuice allow a huge capitalization budget ( show development and pre-staging costs) of $ 21 million which the show needed to recover in order to break even, in addition to covering its weekly operating costs...when it did not fully support it with the appropriate initial marketing budget to make sure the show does not go below the stop-clause level?
Also, booting out "To Kill A Mockingbird", a major hit that makes a lot more money than BJuice, to make way for The Music Man at the Shubert Theatre ( so BJuice can stay at the Winter Garden) does not seem fair even if they tried to look at this solution. But it was looked into. It seems Warner Bros did not want to spare the money that was being asked ( could be not just move-out/move-in costs but opportunity income loss if TKAM moves to a less desirable theatre) and negotiations broke down. Also, the physical attributes of the Shubert Theatre ( proscenium and backstage/wing size) does not suit The Music Man fully ( this could affect the staging, which could in turn lessen the show's appeal and ability to sell it to the public). The Marquis is available - if Warner Bros has faith in BJuice to recover all the costs involved of a move-out/move-in as well as its initial capitalization costs, then it should have faith in its show to keep it going!
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Post by luzie on Dec 15, 2019 16:32:53 GMT -5
He had the same pants on in the THR Actors Roundtable photoshooting last year!!
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 16:47:16 GMT -5
He had the same pants on in the THR Actors Roundtable photoshooting last year!! Haha - he must love 'em Which one - he wore a formal suit for the Variety one and also for the THR version. Was it for the Deadline-sponsored one? Hugh is usually very meticulously dressed ( he uses the services of stylist Michael Fischer for his outfits) when appearing in a public event. Jo |
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 17:02:29 GMT -5
Is this war From BWW -- I am a little surprised that Scott Rudin has kept quiet about all this - he is very well-known for his temperament! The only EGOT producer in the entertainment world has a colorful history. Maybe he will eventually be interviewed by a major trade paper ( Hollywood Reporter or Variety or Deadline?) rather than a teeny-weeny site like TheatreMania? I hope Hugh does not get roped into the controversy - he is a much classier guy than loudmouth Brightman! |
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 17:15:29 GMT -5
If they're not careful - they might turn off people! Except the irrational beetle-nuts! From BWW -- To which someone agreed 1000% I guess the drama school that Brightman attended did not teach professionalism! Or he was not listening EDIT : "He attended Bellarmine College Preparatory, an all-male Jesuit high school in San Jose, California, and graduated in 2005." - his behavior is even more surprising given his Jesuit education! Jo |
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 17:39:17 GMT -5
More response at BWW --
If he does not stop it -- I hope Rudin sues him for $ 21 million!
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Post by pebbles on Dec 15, 2019 17:52:24 GMT -5
Immature. Taking after Trump.
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 18:04:52 GMT -5
I posted this on BWW - gave me a chance to share Hugh's Mame message about Christmas  On the other hand -- this is a different perspective. Written from the viewpoint that the Shubert Organization may not want EGOT producer Scott Rudin to bring his business elsewhere. |
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2019 19:24:09 GMT -5
More from BWW --
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Post by mamaleh on Dec 16, 2019 1:36:35 GMT -5
Shows need to move or close all the time. I've never seen such a childish brouhaha about that happenstance in all my decades of theatergoing. Brightman's actions are not very, well, bright. Nor professional. He and his BJ crew are spewing their acrimony at the wrong target while deliberately ignoring the facts. Rather like Pelosi and her cronies.
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Post by nina on Dec 16, 2019 7:09:36 GMT -5
Jo, try to propose to the beetle-nuts the following questionnaire:
1) In beetlejuice is there an actor able to attracting audiences from all over the world, not only from the United States?
Tick ​​the box: YES - NO
2) Is the theatrical version of Beetlejuice known by a wide audience in the rest of the world, or do people vaguely remember only the one with Michael Keaton?
Tick ​​the box: YES - NO
3) Right now, in Perth, Sydney, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Madrid, London, Tokyo, and in all other cities in the United States in which Hugh Jackman brought his world tour, there are people who are planning a travel to New York, a year in advance, to come to Broadway for Beetlejuice or The Music Man?
Tick ​​the box: Beetlejuice - The Music Man
4) In Beetlejuice is there an actor able to get sold out even if his performance consists of sitting alone in a chair in the middle of the stage, dressed in jeans and a T-shirt, reading the phone guide and nothing else?
Tick ​​the box: YES - NO
If the answer is YES to all the questions, the beetle-nuts are right and Hugh Jackman is an unknown actor whose works nobody has seen. If the answer is NO, they managed to understand the not so subtle difference between "domestic and global", it's something that goes beyond the Broadway borders.
After his world tour, many people are mobilizing from everywhere to come to New York to attend The Music Man even though the majority have no idea what the hell this musical is about and they do it for Hugh, just for him.
P.S. I'm not a new user, I had to redo the registration because I lost my previous login parameters.
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 10:26:27 GMT -5
They are irrational - sorry  I have engaged them only when they malign Music Man and Hugh Jackman with unknowing comments - just to set the facts straight. No use going down to their level. But they can be monitored thru their tirades on Twitter! But while I understand that they want their own kind or brand of entertainment ( To each his own) - my annoyance is more because they are not respecting what Broadway stands for and how Broadway has been run over the years. They want to change that - it should be through a show that will appeal to ALL, not just their demos. They do not want to get evicted - they should support the show ( financially) so it never has to be warned with the contractual stop-clause notice! Part of the miscalculation can be laid down at the feet of the main producers led by a major film studio's theatrical arm, Warner Bros. They miscalculated the revenue streams and how they can be ( correctly) matched with the amortization of capitalized show development expenses and operating costs when already playing. They failed to give the show the required financial support ( thru massive marketing or even thru comped/heavily discounted tickets, if necessary) at the beginning which resulted in the two weeks with revenues falling below the agreed level - which caused the stop-clause notice. They miscalculated the financial pull of their audience ( maybe they thought they were Book of Mormon?) which was reflected in their pricing structure. Or maybe they should not have gotten a theatre with a large operating requirement in terms of minimum revenues. I wonder why Warner Bros has not said anything at this point? As for Alex Brightman, he is fueling the tirades - and Broadway people have noted that. In a touch of irony, the musical which put his name in the theatrical world is called School of Rock. It was adapted from a movie ( with Jack Black) by Andrew Lloyd Webber. Guess who was the producer of that movie -- SCOTT RUDIN PRODUCTIONS! I am waiting with bated breath for when Scott Rudin ( very well known for his temper, although he says he has mellowed) speaks up! Ha!! What people are forgetting are some of the best movies and shows have been produced by the lone EGOT producer Scott Rudin. He has supported both major movies and indie films, classic and new theatrical shows. He has produced entertainment that has won the top awards ( hence, the EGOT stature). He has even made a controversial project - To Kill A Mockingbird - a version written by Aaron Sorkin into a major hit for a play ( never happened on Broadway)! Lest the beetle-nuts forget, Scott Rudin was the producer of the movie that made social media the popular branch of communication quite famous ( The Social Network which deals with the origins of FACEBOOK and how Mark Zuckerberg became the face of this cultural phenomenon of communication and building relationships) so his projects are not all traditional works but also new works. Here is his Wiki bio notes -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_RudinJust waiting till he speaks up!!! Jo |
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 10:49:38 GMT -5
Jo, try to propose to the beetle-nuts the following questionnaire: 1) In beetlejuice is there an actor able to attracting audiences from all over the world, not only from the United States? Tick ​​the box: YES - NO 2) Is the theatrical version of Beetlejuice known by a wide audience in the rest of the world, or do people vaguely remember only the one with Michael Keaton? Tick ​​the box: YES - NO 3) Right now, in Perth, Sydney, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Madrid, London, Tokyo, and in all other cities in the United States in which Hugh Jackman brought his world tour, there are people who are planning a travel to New York, a year in advance, to come to Broadway for Beetlejuice or The Music Man? Tick ​​the box: Beetlejuice - The Music Man 4) In Beetlejuice is there an actor able to get sold out even if his performance consists of sitting alone in a chair in the middle of the stage, dressed in jeans and a T-shirt, reading the phone guide and nothing else? Tick ​​the box: YES - NO If the answer is YES to all the questions, the beetle-nuts are right and Hugh Jackman is an unknown actor whose works nobody has seen. If the answer is NO, they managed to understand the not so subtle difference between "domestic and global", it's something that goes beyond the Broadway borders. After his world tour, many people are mobilizing from everywhere to come to New York to attend The Music Man even though the majority have no idea what the hell this musical is about and they do it for Hugh, just for him. P.S. I'm not a new user, I had to redo the registration because I lost my previous login parameters. Nina -- I appreciate your concern but this will only fuel the tirades further with a direct focus on Hugh. This is what I am trying to avoid. I have once posted on JackmansLanding when Hugh Jackman was being bashed left and right to ask for fans to show their measure of support for him. Btw, I think we need to learn about The Music Man, if we want to throw our solid support for the theatrical project. It is a TONY-winning classic musical, maybe best known in the film adaptation with Robert Preston & Shirley Jones ( the movie based on the stage musical which RP also starred in). Its musical score has 2 famous songs - SEVENTY SIX TROMBONES which every marching band plays...and a song made famous by the Beatles themselves called TILL THERE WAS YOU( a Billboard hit with Anita Bryant). I rewatched the movie so I could argue about the merits of the show revival on Broadway well. We could also show our support thru the official site of @musicmanbroadway. And encourage people to see the revival of THE MUSIC MAN, because it will likely be grand entertainment ( in the same way that Scott Rudin made the revival of HELLO, DOLLY! a major theatrical phenomenon!). Plus of course the added treat of seeing a true star of Broadway returning to the Great White Way ( as Broadway has always been called)! Jo |
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 11:02:55 GMT -5
Nina,
These are from the film adaptation - but it gives one an idea of why The Music Man is one of the most loved American musicals - besides being a show that has cultural small-town Americana appeal!
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 11:10:44 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 11:16:02 GMT -5
Another famous musical number is the Opening Scene - Rock Island!
Which Hugh famously included in his musical variety show BACK ON BROADWAY ( here, repeated at the Tonight Show) --
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Post by jo on Dec 16, 2019 11:34:26 GMT -5
How can you respond to an ignorant rant like this?? Ha - they come from young people who do not know what is true and what is not - they just want to express an opinion, no matter how stupid or ignorant! Btw, Hamilton makes 3 times what BJuice records weekly, based on the most recent report ! www.broadwayworld.com/grosses.cfmJo |
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Post by nina on Dec 16, 2019 12:31:54 GMT -5
I know The Music Man, I had seen it years ago on TV and it is repeated periodically in television programming in my country too, along with more popular musicals outside the United States, especially at Christmas time many classic musicals are broadcast on Italian television networks.
Music Man is not my favorite musical and I would have preferred to see him return to Broadway in a dramatic piece like A Steady Rain or a Shakespearean classic, but it is a personal opinion.
The younger ones don't know The Music Man and many of them have known Hugh through the X-Men franchise, a part of them bought tickets for his tour concerts just for this reason, finding much more than Wolverine and they are the ones I was talking about in my previous post, they will come to Broadway for him even though they don't know the musical he plays to see him sing and dance on a stage again.
What annoys me, in addition to the bad taste and the petty attitudes of the Beetlejuice actors, is their arrogance.
I agree with you on not feeding controversy to prevent them from backfiring against Hugh but they must understand that outside the United States very few people are aware of their show while for months, the news of Jackman's return to Broadway has spread all over the world.
Regardless of the musical chosen, people will go to see his show and the audience will not be composed only by Broadway aficionados. After being on tour all over the world with the results we could see, both in terms of success and of tickets sold, after showing "off Broadway" what he can do on stage, this time people will buy The Music man "sight unseen". After all, I think the Beetlejuice actors know it, otherwise why so much aggression when their show won't be actually canceled tomorrow?
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Post by luzie on Dec 16, 2019 14:08:55 GMT -5
These young ignorant Bettlejuice nuts are a pain in the ass, but until next September all this childish fuss will be long over - considering the short attention span of many (younger) people.
More annoying is the disrespectful behaviour by the Beetlejuice cast and crew - first and foremost the leading performer - and some others (on Broadway) who ought to know better. Hopefully this Brightman guy won't be rewarded with more movie roles or any awards - it would be a shame if insolence would win. I'm more concerned that all this fuss might cause too much bad blood among the Broadway "family" that might be reflected later in a lack of potential recognition at any Broadway awards (Tonys ...) and negative reviews. It often seems there is already enough jealousy of especially Hugh on Broadway and not always enough respect for him anyway, hence I don't know how the general sentiment among Broadway people is and if too many might carry a grudge against the all-star Music Man cast and the production.
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