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[jo]

The Grammys 2020 will award a Best Original Cast Recording for the theatre. Nominees are Hadestown, Moulin Rouge The Musical, Harry Potter, Ain't Too Proud, Oklahoma!


Did you know that the first ever winner - for the first Grammy Awards ( 1959) - was

The Music Man, composed by Meredith Willson...with Robert Preston, Barbara Cook et al?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Annual_Grammy_Awards


Will a cast recording, presumably for the Music Man revival with Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster qualify again? Do the rules bar them from a potential second win?

Maybe not - according to the Grammy Awards rules?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Musical_Theater_Album

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Grammy Award for Best Musical Theater Album
Awarded for
quality musical theater cast recordings
Country
United States
Presented by
National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences
First awarded
1959

The Grammy Award for Best Musical Theater Album has been awarded since 1959. The award was given only to the album producer, and to the composer and lyricist who wrote at least 51% of the music which had not been recorded previously.
Over the years, the qualifications for the individual nominees has fluctuated with principal artists, composers, and producers at one point being the sole eligible nominee, to the more recent standard which includes those whose contributions accounted for the majority of the album. As of 2012, the award description is as follows: "Award to the principal vocalist(s) and the album producer(s) of 51% or more playing time of the album. The lyricist(s) and composer(s) of a new score are eligible for an Award if they have written and/or composed a new score which comprises 51% or more playing time of the album." Therefore, composers and lyricists are ineligible when recordings contain a majority of previously released material (revivals, collected works). Also, while they are not listed among the nominees, since 2001 the Recording Academy has awarded an official Grammy to the engineers/mixers of the winning Album.

But why is Oklahoma! included among current nominees. Wasn't the musical score released in the movie and previous revivals? Moulin Rouge's musical score is basically composed of fastiches of previously released songs? Ain't Too Proud is a jukebox musical using the songbook of a recognized artist (whose songs have been previously released).

Jo

[jo]

However, what may disqualify a new cast recording is an award that has been previously given to the original cast recording --

was inducted in 1998 as a Grammy Hall of Fame Award winner.

We'll see

Jo

[carouselkathy]

So the artists are eligible even if the recording is a revival? Did Grammy Awards for OCRs exist in 1943 when OKLAHOMA! opened on Broadway?

[jo]

The first Grammy was awarded in 1959. The award was originally for the composers and lyricists...and supposedly any previous release of the music (songs) as in revivals disqualify any new recording. When was the movie version of Oklahoma! released? They used most of the songs ( I am assuming this) from the original Broadway production. And there must have been releases of the songs themselves?

Will look up the Oklahoma! musical/film --

EDIT : Here is he info on the musical --

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma!

Sorry, the internet keeps opening the page on OKLAHOMA, the state!


Here are excerpts from the Wiki page --

Recordings[edit]

Most of the songs from Oklahoma! were released on a record album by Decca Records in 1943 containing six 10-inch double-sided discs in 78 RPM format. It was the first U.S. cast album featuring the original Broadway cast of a musical. It sold over a million copies, prompting the label to call the cast back into the studio to record three additional selections that had been left out of the first set. These were issued as Oklahoma! Volume Two. In 1949, Decca re-released the first set on LP but not the second set, which soon became a very rare collectors' item. All subsequent LP releases were similarly incomplete. Finally in 2000, Decca Broadway went back to the original glass masters to generate a new high fidelity transfer of the complete song program and released it on CD, utilizing the original 78 album artwork.[72]

The success of the original Oklahoma! cast album set a precedent for the production of original cast recordings of Broadway musicals, which became an essential part of a musical's dissemination and endurance in popular culture.[73] Later cast recordings of Oklahoma! include the 1979 Broadway revival cast recording, the 1980 London revival cast recording, the 1998 Royal National Theatre revival cast recording, and a soundtrack album of the 1955 film. There have also been more than 20 studio cast recordings of the show, featuring stars such as Nelson Eddy, John Raitt and Florence Henderson in the leading roles.[74]

The movie version was released in 1955 and even won an Oscar for Best Music...so there is a history of recordings being released coming from sources other than the original theatrical album.

Maybe they interpret the rules every which way

Jo

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[njr]

Jan 30, 2020 4:26:10 GMT -5 jo said:

When I quote you I see a twitter url, but it is blank otherwise. Strange.

[jo]

And to think that they have not even done any significant promotion yet!

The Beetlenuts will go NUTS!

Jo

[njr]

Feb 5, 2020 7:35:15 GMT -5 jo said:

And to think that they have not even done any significant promotion yet!

The Beetlenuts will go NUTS!

Jo

Who are “The Beetlenuts?”

[jo]

"Betelguese" Brightman's crazy-minded fans


Up to now they are pushing for "Bettlejuice" to keep the WinterGarden Theatre ( by moving Mockingbird to a smaller theatre or even close that show...and get The Music Man to open at the Shubert Theatre because they say " the Shubert is the best fit for the Jackman show")


Some convoluted thinking at BWW from the Beetlenuts --

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"ellbellthomps said: "I really think the best bet would be for Shubert to close up TKAM/transfer it to a smaller theatre and have music man there. It's a much better theatre for it, and that way one less show has to move."

This makes waymore sense than moving BJ to the Shubert... there’s no way Rudin is closing or moving one of his shows to make room for the show he got kicked out..."
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Think about what you’re proposing for a moment. Who do you expect to pay for these 3 separate moves? Not the Shuberts, not Rudin, and certainly not the BEETLEJUICE producers."

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There would be one move, and although this would never happen, I think it's a great idea. Music Man works much much better in the shubert anyways.

The Shubert Company should reconsider. Will they? Probably not, but it's stupid to close a sell that has been consistently selling even before the closing notice.

I don't know where the final poster in this chain of conversation got the idea that "Music Man works much much better in the Shubert". She/he is not at all involved as a member of the creative team

Producer Rudin's people did try to see if they could work out the option of Music Man changing the theatre from the Winter Garden to the Shubert ( meaning moving out Mockingbird, which incidentally has higher gross receipts and likely net profits than BJuice because it is a straight play). But given the creative team's plans for the Music Man revival, it did not prosper.

Btw, it is not as if the lead producers of BJuice cannot afford any transfer ( it's the theatrical arm of Warner Bros) -- it is likely that given the additional moving cost and the expected revenue streams from the show that it would not make financial sense.


Jo

[ADMIN]

The Music Man Opening Night Tickets and Party Passes


OK - who's got money to burn???

With the anticipation of 76 trombones, The Music Man marches on to Broadway starring Golden Globe and Tony Award winner and Academy Award nominee Hugh Jackman and Tony Award winner Sutton Foster. Meredith Wilson’s beloved musical is directed by Tony Award winner Jerry Zaks. The Music Man is scheduled to open at the Winter Garden Theatre in the 2021 season.

Special thanks to Scott Rudin.

Experience the excitement of an opening night on Broadway with this special package of opening night tickets and two passes to the opening night party of one of the hottest shows of the season. Join a host of VIPs, special guests and theatre lovers for the show, then rub shoulders at the party with cast members, investors and their friends.

Direct link to bidding site

More info here - click "Bid on Live Auction items" and look for Hugh/Music Man logo (pictured above)

NB: I am not personally promoting this, just letting you know it exists.

[jo]

THANKS!

Bidding for an undated event? Rudin must be elated at the response.

The current bid is so far outrunning (at breakneck speed) all other live auctions for the Broadway FLEA MARKET offers. This is an annual project of Broadway Cares (where Hugh has been top fundraiser over the years).

www.biddingforgood.com/auction/item/browse.action?auctionId=341696602&categoryId=341884198

Jo

[jo]

http://instagram.com/p/CFP6QWmjh5X

[jo]

OMG


It's on the marquee!


Jo

[jo]

Sometime in 2021 --

The Music Man IS coming to Broadway... and he's selling a million dreams!

[jo]

[jo]

[jo]

First, translation of that tweet --

Broadway Meme
@bwaymeme
adorei esse novo show da broadway que vai se chamar Hugh Jackman e Sutton Foster

Translated from Portuguese by
I loved this new broadway show that will be called Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster

Maybe just having fun with the show.

But --


There is quite a bit of resentment coming from --

the Beetletiktok-ers

the BlackLivesMatter advocates who prefer that Broadway shows more unstaged creations from black authors

the haters of supposedly stunt casting ( ha - since when is Hugh Jackman considered stunt casting?)

LOL - some even make fun of the marquee on the sides featuring simply the names of Hugh and Sutton ( see above tweet).


Instead of rejoicing at this glimmer of hope for the eventual return of Broadway -- people are resenting when success comes to others.

Jo