Les Miserables - In Production/Post Production

[birchie]

Oct 5, 2012 21:43:21 GMT -5 Jamie said:

We do know that there is quite a fight because of Hugh saying that Crowe told him to really hit him that he could take it because of being a footballer, but after about five takes Crowe said that's enough. Even with that Hugh said Crowe could take him in a real fight.

I noticed in that clip, when they asked who would win in a real fight between them, that he started to say "that's not me" then quickly said Russell would win, no question (not an exact quote)...I think his brain quickly told him not to say anything relating to the fact that he probably wouldn't have an actual fist fight with Russell or anyone else.

[jo]

www.goldderby.com/films/news/3465/les-miserables-oscars-academy-awards-entertainment-news.html#guest


>>>Films Awards Blog

Snuggle4 calls the Oscars derby: 'Les Miserables' will sweep


By Tom O'Neil

Oct 06 2012 | 15:23 pm



"Psst! Tom, it's over. A monster sweep for 'Les Miz.' Mark this date down," says a private message I just received on Oct. 6 from someone who really knows his Oscars.

It's our user "Snuggle4" – who won Gold Derby's Oscar predictions contest last year and came in fourth place predicting the recent Emmys. Obviously, he's a Hollywood hotshot because, when I asked him to reveal his true identity to claim a prize after his Oscar achievement, he refused, replying, "Can we just skip the name part and suffice it to say I'm an industry gadfly? … My philosophy on picking winners is easy - don't listen to bloggers and JUST SEE THE FILMS! Down to the last nominated documentary short. Listen to industry buzz, but pay no mind to film critics or you'll be 'Social Networked' right out of contention."

When I asked him if he's seen "Les Miserables," he replied with this tease, "I can neither confirm nor deny that I've seen it. Hope that helps … ."

Last year Snuggle4 scored 88% when forecasting the Oscars, which was much higher than the 80% reaped by the three experts who won our predictions contest with 80%: Pete Hammond (Deadline Hollywood), Sasha Stone (AwardsDaily) and Tariq Khan (Fox News). At his Gold Derby account page, Snuggle4 uses the image of the mascot of Snuggle laundry fabric softener.
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;D ;D ;D


Jo

[jo]

A possible Oscar contender for best original song is the newly released song from SKYFALL performed by pop star Adele.

But HitFix has raised the issue of whether the Academy will deem it eligible because it contains a portion which harks back to the original theme in DR NO.

www.hitfix.com/in-contention/will-the-use-of-the-original-bond-theme-on-skyfall-disqualify-adeles-original-song-contender

Will the use of the original James Bond theme on 'Skyfall' disqualify Adele's original song hopeful?

Those pesky music branch rules might claim another victim

By Kristopher Tapley Thursday, Oct 4, 2012 4:42 PM
Even though the song is set to officially debut tomorrow, I imagine most interested parties have already heard the leaked portion of Adele's new Bond tune, "Skyfall." (UPDATE: The song is available now.) One of the cooler elements of the track is that it incorporates the original Monty Norman "Dr. No" theme that became, of course, the signature Bond melody. But while it's a nifty nod, it also might have done the song in where Oscar is concerned.

The rules are relatively clear about this. Per rule 15, category I B: "An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture." The bold is the Academy's, not mine. So judging by that, just having that lingering bit of melody from the classic music is potentially enough to keep it out of contention.

That puts a slight dent in Greg Ellwood's theory that the category is set to be dominated by popular songstresses like Adele, Florence Welch and Katy Perry. Though, respectfully, I never really thought it would be, and if anything has been proven over the last few years (which have seen the eligible songs presented in context to voters rather than just sent on a CD or something), it's the song or the artist itself isn't the thing. Just ask Bruce Springsteen.

Yes, this year the rules were changed to allow for these to be viewed on DVD (as well as to guarantee a full slate of five nominees), but while that might widen the net of those who'll be doing the actual viewing (since they don't have to hoof it to a special screening in New York or Los Angeles), it still doesn't change HOW the songs are being observed and, therefore, considered. So closing credits tracks will, as always, face an uphill battle. (And they rarely were nominated even previous to the rule change a few years back.)

But that's neither here nor there. Adele's song, which is admittedly awesome, faces a roadblock here. The letter of the law, if you will, rules it out. And in any case, it's always tough for a Bond song, regardless of artist. After all, the franchise has only produced three nominees over the years: "Live and Let Die" from same, "Nobody Does it Better" from "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "For Your Eyes Only" from same.

Meanwhile, I don't even think the Florence + the Machine song from "Snow White and the Huntsman" ("Breath of Life") ever had much of a shot (closing credits and, even as a fan of the artist, I can't say much for the song), nor Katy Perry's from "Katy Perry: Part of Me" ("Wide Awake"). For a variety of reasons, I'd say the deck is stacked against them.

The songs from "Brave" will be worth watching, as will some of the stuff from "Lawless," I think. But in all likelihood, this will end up being an easy one to call, as the Hugh Jackman-belted "Suddenly" from "Les Misérables" will be formidable, I imagine....

Repeating what Kris Tapley of HitFix said --

"But in all likelihood, this will end up being an easy one to call, as the Hugh Jackman-belted "Suddenly" from "Les Misérables" will be formidable, I imagine"

Crossing my fingers 8-)

[jo]

In case anyone is interested, here are the relevant rules for music awards --

www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/rules/rule15.html

Rule Fifteen: Special Rules for the Music Awards

I.CATEGORIES
A.Original Score:
An original score is a substantial body of music that serves as original dramatic underscoring and is written specifically for the motion picture by the submitting composer.

B.Original Song:
An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture. There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits.

C.Original Musical:
An original musical consists of not fewer than five original songs (as defined in Paragraph I.B above) by the same writer or team of writers either used as voiceovers or visually performed. Each of these songs must be substantively rendered, clearly audible, intelligible, and must further the storyline of the motion picture. An arbitrary group of songs unessential to the storyline will not be considered eligible.

II.ELIGIBILITY
A.The work must be created specifically for the eligible feature-length motion picture.

B.The work must be the result of a creative interaction between the filmmaker(s) and the composer(s) and/or songwriter(s) who have been engaged to work directly on the motion picture.

C.The work’s eligibility shall be evaluated on its effectiveness, craftsmanship, creative substance and relevance to the dramatic whole.

D.The work must be recorded for use in the motion picture prior to any other usage, including public performance or exploitation through any media whatsoever.

E.Only the principal composer(s) or songwriter(s) responsible for the conception and execution of the work as a whole shall be eligible for an award.

Expressly excluded from eligibility are all of the following:

1.supervisors
2.partial contributors (i.e., any writer not responsible for the overall design of the work)
3.contributors working on speculation

F.Scores diluted by the use of tracked themes or other preexisting music, diminished in impact by the predominant use of songs, or assembled from the music of more than one composer shall not be eligible.

G.No more than one statuette will normally be given in the Original Score category. A second statuette may be awarded when two composers function as equal collaborators in producing the score, each contributing a substantial amount of original music for the film.

H.No more than two statuettes will normally be given in the Original Song category. A third statuette may be awarded when there are three essentially equal contributors to a song. The Music Branch Executive Committee has the right, in what it alone determines to be a very rare and extraordinary circumstance, to name a fourth qualified songwriter as eligible for nominations.
I.In the case of an original musical, the composer or adapter of the instrumental score may qualify for an award if his or her contribution is deemed relevant and substantial.

J.The Music Branch Executive Committee shall resolve all rules interpretations and all questions of eligibility.

K.It is within the sole and confidential discretion of the Board of Governors to determine what awards, if any, shall be given.

Jo

[rmtndew]

I don't know where ya'll find all of your information, but it's so nice not to have to go to any other sites. I love that everyone shares everything on here and if someone has a question, someone else has an answer or knows where to find it. I've always loved that about this board, I guess I've just never said it.

- Alicia

[Jamie]

New Oscar Poker with a good discussion on Les Mis and then other contenders. Audio link here: hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/10/oscar_poker_96.php

[ocjackie]

Does all that mean that "Suddenly" can also win a Grammy? If that's true, then Hugh has a chance of having won every major award? It's such a nice dream to think about

[jo]

I have not had a chance to listen to the podcast (Jeff Wells and Tom O'Neil) but someone told me that despite "Snuggle4"'s lofty Oscar claims for Les Miserables, that he places Hugh only at fifth place ( and will not carry the day for Les Mis :'() but has confidence that Anne will win. The man has supposedly hinted he might have already seen a rough cut, on which he based his forecast??


Jo

[jo]

Sasah Stone of Awardsdaily writes a blog on the Golden Globes possible nominees, speculating that Les Miserables will go head to head with Silver Linings Playbook --

www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/10/08/golden-globes-silver-linings-playbook-to-go-head-to-head-with-les-miserables-at-globes/

Golden Globes – Silver Linings Playbook to go head to head with Les Miserables at Globes


Posted by Sasha Stone on Oct 8, 2012 in Golden Globes, Les Miserables, Silver Linings Playbook | 2 comments

What do The Apartment, Annie Hall and Shakespeare in Love all have in common? They were entered in the “Musical/Comedy” category at the Golden Globes. I surveyed many of my Twitter followers to ask them whether or not they considered those films romantic comedies or not. The conclusion was mostly than none of them fit the mold completely. In romantic comedies the guy usually gets the girl. He only gets the girl in The Apartment, which is more drama than comedy. In both Annie Hall and Shakespeare in Love the ending is bittersweet. The guy loses the girl but keeps her permanently in his heart. Yes, I’m aware that all three of these movies – with the possible exception of The Apartment – follow the arc of a male character. What else is new? Even now, in 2012, most of the films heading into the Oscar race follow the arc of the male lead. The exceptions – Beasts of the Southern Wild and Moonrise Kingdom (to a degree it’s about both). And now, if it is one of the films in consideration, Middle of Nowhere. Zero Dark Thirty hangs on the intel of a female character.

Why does any of this matter? Because romantic comedies that hang on men tend to do better in the race than those that hang on women, which are few and far between.

Now, Silver Linings Playbook is in the lead to win Best Picture if you go by Fandango’s Dave Karger and The Wrap’s Steve Pond. It will be put in the category of comedy at the Globes. But that puts it against Tom Hooper’s Les Miserables. That’s kind of like putting your bishop in front of your queen.

Only Annie Hall lost the Globe for Best Picture, Comedy and went on to win the Oscar for Best Picture. The Goodbye Girl, which won the Globe that year, beat musicals High Anxiety, New York, New York and Saturday Night Fever. But neither The Apartment nor Shakespeare in Love went up against a musical. Not only is Les Miserables a musical but that’s all it is – pure musical. There are no speaking parts. That would mean that if Silver Linings Playbook wins instead that ups its chances significantly to win the Best Picture Oscar, although Les Miserables has what it doesn’t: gravitas.

It’s possible that 2012 will be a year a comedy wins Best Picture. Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan, Annie Hall beat Star Wars – but really had no competition beyond that. And The Apartment remains not only one of the best films ever made but one of Oscar’s best ever decisions for Best Picture. It beat nothing, particularly, as it too had no competition. So really only Shakespeare in Love had a strong competitor in Saving Private Ryan. While Shakespeare in Love is the better film overall, Private Ryan’s standing in film history and its first 40 minutes seem to indicate that it would have been the better choice for the prize. This is backed up by John Madden failing to win Best Director; a strong Best Picture winner, even relatively light fare like The King’s Speech and The Artist won Best Director too, legitimizing their wins. A weaker win, a closer vote, will fail to drag the director along – Chicago, Crash, etc.

To sell Silver Linings Playbook, though, The Weinstein Co. will have to sell David O. Russell and Bradley Cooper too. 2012 is one of the best years for film overall, with one masterpiece turning up after the next. After 13 years covering the Oscar race I know that it’s foolhardy to think one of those will ever win Best Picture. We aren’t talking rewarding the best film of the year. We are talking about the film most of the 6,000 voters in the Academy can agree upon as the best. In my life I’ll never really understand the majority vote. But it is what it is.

The drama category at the Globes is likely filling up fast too. But it’s still too early, believe it or not, to proclaim. The Globe voting body can be even more sappy than the Academy. The fate of Beasts of the Southern Wild is uncertain – will it be too hard core, too ugly for them?

Because of Oscar’s date change, the HFPA will likely screen many of the film

Here are some possible titles for the Globes drama:

Lincoln
Life of Pi
Argo
Anna Karenina
The Sessions

And then:
Beasts of the Southern Wild
The Master
Django Unchained
Zero Dark Thirty
The Promised Land
Flight
The Impossible

You just never know with the Globes how they will go. But look at those titles. It’s hard to know if they will go for The Master or not. They tend to go for weepy over complex and since so many are unsure what The Master is even about it’s hard to imagine that the HFPA will go for it. Conversely, Anna Karenina seems right up their street. The Weinstein Co. tends to do very well with the HFPA — Jennifer Lawrence will likely win Best Actress for Musical/Comedy and Bradley Cooper will go head to head with Hugh Jackman for the win. We don’t yet know where Dhango Unchained will place. They love Tarantino.

As for Musical/Comedy at the Globes you have:

Silver Linings Playbook
Les Miserables
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Moonrise Kingdom
Hyde Park on Hudson

I’m wondering about:
Magic Mike
Hope Springs

Usually the Globe nominations don’t have that much of an impact on the race because they came too early. But Oscar ballots are going out earlier so who knows.

How about you, readers? What are your early Globes picks?

Take out the word "Weinstein" and this will sound more like a fair fight >

Hope the set visit of the Foreign Press Association ( which awards the Golden Globes), especially that session with Hugh, will give Les Miserables and Hugh an even chance to win the Globes, as these media persons must have seen how the movie was being so meticulously made!


Jo

[jo]

Remember this ?

www.twylah.com/kierstenkrum/tweets/212612714848206849

Hugh in Les Miserables get-up at the Hollywood Foreign Press Association conference for the movie "Les Miserables" held in London on May 12





" Hugh in Les Miserables get-up at the Hollywood Foreign Press Association conference for the movie "Les Miserables" held in London on May 12 "

[jo]

Also, some socializing with the HFPA by Universal, Mackintosh and Jackman --


>>>Thursday, May 17, 2012

BUSY TIME IN LONDON FOR HFPA


HFPA members had a busy time on a recent trip to London, visiting Pinewood Studios where they went on the set of Les Miserables and the following day taking a two-hour coach trip to Arundel in Sussex. There, Universal Studios had taken over the ancient Arundel Castle for TV, radio and print interviews with the cast of Snow White and the Huntsman. The restored medieval castle, which has been in the family of the Duke of Norfolk for more than 400 years, was for three days the base for Charlize Theron, who plays the evil Queen, Kristen Stewart (left, Snow White) and Chris Hemsworth (The Huntsman) to talk about themselves and the movie. Guests at a reception at Claridges the same evening included HFPA members, Universal head Ron Meyer, studio chairman Adam Fogelson, theatrical producer Cameron Mackintosh and Hugh Jackman, who stars in Les Miserables.<<<



I wonder if this was when Hugh and Cameron Mackintosh were photographed together going presumably to the Claridges ( and were mistakenly reported as heading to Robert Pattinson's birthday bash)?



Jo

[jo]

If you can't get into the NYC premiere showing on December 10 ...but live in or near Washington, DC, there is a charity event screening of Les Miserables scheduled on December 12 --

woodleyhouse.org/events.html


Least expensive ticket is $ 300.

Jo

[jo]

Re the NYC premiere -- it looks like the event is being sold as a premium event by "enterprising" businessmen

www.thevipconcierge.com/VIPEvents/380/Les-Miserables-Premiere-After-Party-VIP-Tickets.aspx

You may want to press/fill in the INQUIRE box at the bottom, if you are interested in the event?


Jo

[ocjackie]

As much as I want to go yo the one in DC, it's a little pricey. It's right in my back dooe and if Hugh was going to be there, I'd give it a 2nd thought. Gotta save $$$ for Houdini, and I've already started.

[jo]

The NYC premiere/party tickets being sold are really pricey.

Someone on IMDB posted this --

ckrivo1 31 minutes ago (Mon Oct 8 2012 18:40:30) Ignore this User | Report Abuse


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------if It's from VIP concierge, theyre currently asking $2450 (originally they were asking $1600 before all details were known and before the $32K auction) a person and only have 4 available. Another place quoted me $5000 a person!

:o :o :o

[jo]

I posted Sasha's blog earlier ---

www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/10/08/golden-globes-silver-linings-playbook-to-go-head-to-head-with-les-miserables-at-globes/

But the ensuing feedback section is very interesting reading - especially as they pertain to Les Miserables. It is unbelievable how some people will or can put roadblocks so as not to enjoy the musical...but some earnestly and patiently explain what the musical is really all about. Can you imagine someone saying -- "What, they are just copying a stage musical - where is the creativity in filmmaking there??? " ....So, if you are trying to convince someone ( in the family, among friends, or even strangers at the cinema trying to decide which movie to see) -- you can actually copy what the Les Mis defender is saying ;D

I have also been tracking discussions on another message board ( Awardsdaily forum) re Best Actor - I am almost bursting a vein reading some of the inanity re putting down Hugh Jackman's talent. "He is just Wolverine, so he cannot be any notch higher than John Hawkes who is a serious actor!" ...Or " Hugh may be a musical phenomenon in NYC but in Hollywood, he is just Wolverine"

Is there a resentment towards the theatre from movie geeks?

Since when did people stop appreciating someone with many talents??? Or if a role calls for so much depth do people find ways to make it sound inane because it is only a musical?? Can you imagine the brickbats if Hugh gets nominated, let alone win an Oscar --Sigh................


What a sad commentary when some people simply say no to one of the greatest gifts there is - MUSIC!


End of rant


Jo

[mamaleh]

Decades ago, many of the popular songs heard on the radio and sung on TV variety shows (remember those?) were from Broadway musicals. Today, of course, that is no longer the case. Show music is so far out of the "zeitgeist" that it's viewed with disdain (Simon Cowell, disparagingly: "That's so Broadway!") or at best bemusement, the exceptions being certain songs performed on GLEE. There are some young fans of the genre, but, sadly, they are far outnumbered by those who haven't a clue. I sincerely hope Hugh is able to surmount the naysayers and at least clinch a nomination.

[jo]

And yet musicals like BOOK OF MORMON is enjoyed immensely by a young(er) fanbase ... But I did like I BELIEVE ;D

Anyway -- the AMPAS is supposedly composed of predominantly male members with an average age of 62 or thereabouts! Hope these are the folks who enjoyed the show tunes we did in earlier times


Jo

[rmtndew]

I was shopping with my sister-in-law last week and heard a girl on another isle talking to her mother about the Les Miserables movie. She said, 'They're remaking it as a musical. I don't know why they're doing that to it. The one with Liam Neeson was perfect.'
I was very tempted to go over and kindly explain to her that the musical has been one of the longest running and most popular musicals ever on stage and that a lot of people have been waiting years for it, and although Liam Neeson is wonderful, Hugh Jackman's Jean Valjean is already being considered an Oscar contender. Silly girl.

- Alicia

[njr]

Oct 9, 2012 8:24:28 GMT -5 mamaleh said:

Decades ago, many of the popular songs heard on the radio and sung on TV variety shows (remember those?) were from Broadway musicals. Today, of course, that is no longer the case. Show music is so far out of the "zeitgeist" that it's viewed with disdain (Simon Cowell, disparagingly: "That's so Broadway!") or at best bemusement, the exceptions being certain songs performed on GLEE. There are some young fans of the genre, but, sadly, they are far outnumbered by those who haven't a clue. I sincerely hope Hugh is able to surmount the naysayers and at least clinch a nomination.

Yeah, even the Beatles did a Broadway showtune (Till There Was You from The Music Man)!! ;D

Nancy

[nevaeh777]

Well, regarding these people who just don't get it, we have to remember to just keep our cool and not get upset and explain as calmly as possible why Hugh is more than just and deserves to be nominated, if not win, the !!!

[Jamie]

Outside of the almost overwhelming urge to bang heads together when I read some of these idiotic comments, I just keep telling myself, "Wait until 12/26!". These people just don't have a clue about what they are going to see. They haven't sat in a theater with half of the audience audibly sobbing and imagined what it will be like when the limitations of stage are expanded to the possibilities of film.

[renner]

I know what you mean!! If I have to explain one more time...."yes, its a musical"..."No, really, a musical"..."Yes, Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe are in it"..."Yes, they can BOTH sing" I am going to go a bit medieval on someone. Then you have to go through Hugh's entire CV and explain how Russell Crowe is a singer and was Dr. Frankenfurter etc.

Those who prejudge Hugh's performance are obviously not aware of his work - on stage or screen. I am looking forward to the opening of their minds come December 25th!!

(Nice emoticons Nevaeh! You computer geeks amaze me!)

[jo]

Did the costume designer try to match his coat ( olive green) with the color of his eyes (hazel)??

Jo

[Jamie]

You know you have it bad when you can look at a single picture and know:

"Will someone tear these two apart?
What is this fighting all about?
This is a factory, not a circus!
Now come on ladies, settle down
I run a business of repute
I am the Mayor of this town
I look to you to sort this out
And be as patient as you can-