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Post by qwerty on Mar 27, 2017 21:50:49 GMT -5
Not sure if audiences will have access to anything that Michael Gracey may be bringing with him. The convention is for theater exhibitors, although I have no idea how exclusive attendance can be monitored. Jo I still hope we will see some teasers in the future. Btw, I wonder, will there still be time for editing till the release date? Because usually films take one year to edit befre it gets released |
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Post by jo on Mar 27, 2017 22:00:54 GMT -5
Re the CinemaCon at LV, it seems earlier presentations this week showed brief sequences from forthcoming movies. But the report from Deadline did not show any clips. Presumably, select media like Deadline will be allowed presence but maybe they are under strict rules not to reproduce exclusive clips that are shown...but could probably report on the clips themselves. If GREATEST SHOWMAN will be presented with some clips, hopefully the media outlets allowed inside the halls can give detailed reports on what they might be shown. If this were ComicCon, there is a much greater chance that a fanboy will record it despite the prohibition  Jo |
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Post by jo on Mar 27, 2017 22:03:33 GMT -5
Not necessarily -- maybe if there are a lot of CGIs and Visual Effects ( or whatever they are called), that may take a long time to do. But in the case of LES MISERABLES -- the filming wrapped in late June...and by mid-December, Tom Hooper was ready for the world premiere in London! Maybe Tom forgot to sleep during all that time Kidding aside, the first assembly of filmed scenes for Les Miserables was over 4 hours long...and Tom trimmed it down to 3 hours...and eventually finely edited it to his target 2.5 hours length ( sometimes, when a film is too long, the audience attention wanders!). Jo |
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Post by jo on Mar 27, 2017 22:13:07 GMT -5
Another example - Denis Villeneuve's PRISONERS completed filming with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal right around post-2013 Oscars, either in late February or early March? But it was ready for the Toronto Film Festival in mid-September -- it was not a film spectacle but a dark thriller with excellent character development that was much praised and buzzed for the Oscars ( but that did not come -- although in Toronto, it was voted as first or second choice by the audience of all the films shown at the famous festival).
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 4:47:10 GMT -5
Another example - Denis Villeneuve's PRISONERS completed filming with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal right around post-2013 Oscars, either in late February or early March? But it was ready for the Toronto Film Festival in mid-September -- it was not a film spectacle but a dark thriller with excellent character development that was much praised and buzzed for the Oscars ( but that did not come -- although in Toronto, it was voted as first or second choice by the audience of all the films shown at the famous festival). Jo Ah I see, I guess I shouldn't be worried at all 😂 btw, i heard shooting is not over yet, there still might be some for next week. but after that, at least the editing part will be their only problem left... Oh, and so as promoting the movie |
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 4:57:46 GMT -5
Unless you read it somewhere else - I wrote about it right after all the rejoicing that the film has wrapped  Oops, I hear final filming has not really wrapped yet! It was all the musical/production numbers which wrapped! Maybe another week to finish things up? But still very excited that after all these years that we might eventually see Hugh's dream project finally coming home! Hopefully, we can get a glimpse of our musical sometime soon! Very soon, please! Jo Jo |
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 5:13:14 GMT -5
Editing is only a part of post-production. Post-prod will also include film scoring ( the film scorer will now have to look at the first cut of the movie so he can fit the right film score ( not just musical sounds but also all other sounds that we hear in the background) although partial work may have already been started when the first rushes came in. The sound and voice requirements of the movie will also have to be perfected. Maybe the musical score will have to be polished further? Whatever CGIs/Visual Effects/Special Effects are needed will have to be completed. As Gracey assembles the filmed scenes and imbues his cinematic vision into the first cut, he will be snipping away...and/or decide whether some scenes need pickup shots or more needy reshoots. This is usual for any major film. If he has test screenings for the movie, based on any major reactions that do not favor the movie, he may decide whether to follow any suggestions or not. Also, the studio may suggest further changes after they have viewed the first cut(s)... We'll see... the first publicity material ( teasers/trailers/interviews/media coverage) will come sometimes sooner than we expect. I do not know if the soundtrack will be released ahead of the movie release. Also, at some point a few weeks before the premiere/movie release, there will likely be TV spots and then the media junket, aka media tour, follows with Hugh...and whoever will be accompanying him. This will be the most tiring phase for the actors, especially if they decide to hold premieres other than in the USA ( most likely in NYC). LOGAN had its world premiere at the Berlinale ( Berlin Film Festival in Berlin), then held other public screenings with Hugh and sometimes with Patrick Stewart in NYC, Taiwan, China, Sao Paulo in Brazil. There were media meetings in these places, too. When Hugh did the media interviews in NYC, he was supposed to have come from an overnight filming session for GREATEST SHOWMAN. Also, the actors may appear in talk shows usually in the USA and occasionally in the UK. For major tentpoles ( not literally, because Barnum invented or popularized the "tentpole" ), there could be appearances in other countries's popular TV shows! If they decide to include this in a festival in case they can be ready, that is another round of publicity. But most of the intensive media coverage and public screenings will likely occur in December. PS: IF, and that is an IF, the studio feels that the movie and the performances have strong awards potential ( Oscar/BAFTA/Golden Globe/SAG/DGA/etc) there could be a special campaign to promote the film's chances and to bring the movie to the attention of the awards community. This could be more public screenings with Q&As and a round of social events ( aka parties) relating to promoting the movie. Screeners will have to be sent out, including uploading the screenplay. And we will begin to see the many "For Your Consideration" ads! In a twist of fate, other strong contenders even if the movies have not been made, include another biopic for Daniel Day Lewis/Joaquin Phoenix/a Spielberg history-based drama/and a war or conflict-related movie! Same competition when Les Miserables was released! But maybe there will be no White House screenings this time Long ways to go -- but it will be nothing compared to the 7-year wait for the movie to be filmed! Jo |
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 10:42:20 GMT -5
Rebecca Ferguson, who is doing the media tour for LIFE, was asked very briefly about GREATEST SHOWMAN. She spoke about it for less than a minute and the words that I caught -- *Spectacle *Circus *Hugh Jackman singing *Bearded Lady *Incredible music *Thrilling experience Check it out at around 4'45" collider.com/rebecca-ferguson-life-the-snowman-interview/ |
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 11:02:10 GMT -5
Editing is only a part of post-production. Post-prod will also include film scoring ( the film scorer will now have to look at the first cut of the movie so he can fit the right film score ( not just musical sounds but also all other sounds that we hear in the background) although partial work may have already been started when the first rushes came in. The sound and voice requirements of the movie will also have to be perfected. Maybe the musical score will have to be polished further? Whatever CGIs/Visual Effects/Special Effects are needed will have to be completed. As Gracey assembles the filmed scenes and imbues his cinematic vision into the first cut, he will be snipping away...and/or decide whether some scenes need pickup shots or more needy reshoots. This is usual for any major film. If he has test screenings for the movie, based on any major reactions that do not favor the movie, he may decide whether to follow any suggestions or not. Also, the studio may suggest further changes after they have viewed the first cut(s)... We'll see... the first publicity material ( teasers/trailers/interviews/media coverage) will come sometimes sooner than we expect. I do not know if the soundtrack will be released ahead of the movie release. Also, at some point a few weeks before the premiere/movie release, there will likely be TV spots and then the media junket, aka media tour, follows with Hugh...and whoever will be accompanying him. This will be the most tiring phase for the actors, especially if they decide to hold premieres other than in the USA ( most likely in NYC). LOGAN had its world premiere at the Berlinale ( Berlin Film Festival in Berlin), then held other public screenings with Hugh and sometimes with Patrick Stewart in NYC, Taiwan, China, Sao Paulo in Brazil. There were media meetings in these places, too. When Hugh did the media interviews in NYC, he was supposed to have come from an overnight filming session for GREATEST SHOWMAN. Also, the actors may appear in talk shows usually in the USA and occasionally in the UK. For major tentpoles ( not literally, because Barnum invented or popularized the tentpole ), there could be appearances in other countries's popular TV shows! If they decide to include this in a festival in case they can be ready, that is another round of publicity. But most of the intensive media coverage and public screenings will likely occur in December. PS: IF, and that is an IF, the studio feels that the movie and the performances have strong awards potential ( Oscar/BAFTA/Golden Globe/SAG/DGA/etc) there could be a special campaign to promote the film's chances and to bring the movie to the attention of the awards community. This could be more public screenings with Q&As and a round of social events ( aka parties) relating to promoting the movie. Screeners will have to be sent out, including uploading the screenplay. And we will begin to see the many "For Your Consideration" ads! In a twist of fate, other strong contenders even if the movies have not been made, include another biopic for Daniel Day Lewis/Joaquin Phoenix/a Spielberg history-based drama/and a war or conflict-related movie! Same competition when Les Miserables was released! But maybe there will be no White House screenings this time Long ways to go -- but it will be nothing compared to the 7-year wait for the movie to be filmed! Jo Gosh I feel excited for the promos! |
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 11:03:04 GMT -5
Rebecca Ferguson, who is doing the media tour for LIFE, was asked very briefly about GREATEST SHOWMAN. She spoke about it for less than a minute and the words that I caught -- *Spectacle *Circus *Hugh Jackman singing *Bearded Lady *Incredible music *Thrilling experience Check it out at around 4'45" collider.com/rebecca-ferguson-life-the-snowman-interview/The way she described the movie, it sounds exciting. I'm already picturing it something magical and something like Mary Poppins. Gosh I can't wait |
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 11:42:02 GMT -5
I am not sure when Zac filmed this music video, but it could have been after HAIRSPRAY -- Sorry, I'm backrearing the previous pages of this forum, and yes, it is after Hairspray. I can assure you, Zac is really good at dancing 😊 he has been doing theaters and musicas since he was like a kid. |
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 11:51:42 GMT -5
After Rebecca described TGS, I already pictured it as something like Mary Poppins. I feel like its gonna be colorful, full of dancing and singing. I really hope this will help Hugh to get nominated for an Oscar again cause seriously, the man deserves to win. His performance for Les Miserables is the stepping stone of his musical adventures 😊
I do keep hearing how TGS wants to be the next La La Land but this was in production firsr before that movie. And besides, they already got Paul and Pasek before La La Land got famous. So I really hope the comparison won't affect the box-office and critical reception of the movie itself.
Btw, Ringling bros Barnum and Bailey circus will do their last show on May 21 😢 I'm a bit sad because well, we know PT Barnum left a legacy then it will be closed this year. I'm actually hoping IF this movie will be a success, this may help to re-open the circus again. If not, at least Hugh and the cast and crew were able to show how PT Barnum was smart to sell his business.
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Post by qwerty on Mar 28, 2017 11:54:25 GMT -5
Btw, fun fact, Zac already mentioned way back in 2015 about TGS. When he was asked if he would do another musical, he was supposed to talk about it until his manager told him to keep quiet about the project 😂 TGS is really secretive haha
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 18:24:53 GMT -5
*Les Miserables was Hugh's first film musical but his musical roots go way back! Though he was trained in a dramatic course at WAAPA, his first professional theatre job was as GASTON ( yes, that Gaston ) in an original production of Beauty and the Beast in Australia. He was then cast as Joe Gillis in Andrew Lloyd Webber's SUNSET BOULEVARD. Trevor Nunn who directed SUNSET B cast him again, this time as another iconic musical theatre character, Curly in the Royal National Theatre's famous revival of OKLAHOMA! in London...That led to his Hollywood career as XMen producer Lauren Shuler Donner saw the production and persuaded Fox and Bryan Singer to cast him as Wolverine! Pause for a few years...and then he went to NYC, first for the concert version of Rodgers and Hammerstein's CAROUSEL. A year later, in 2003, he became THE BOY FROM OZ on Broadway! He won a TONY for it and became widely-known for being both an action star and a musical theatre triple-threat! In 2011, he returned to Broadway in a variety one-man show called BACK ON BROADWAY! For both musical appearances on Broadway, he won rave reviews and the hearts of many fans, Oz-a-lots included Hugh had also been a very popular Oscars host, for the year 2009! *Having seen the entire High School Musical series plus Hairspray, I knew about Zac's singing and dancing abilities which were widely known! His return to movie musicals via Greatest Showman is also welcomed! Btw, before Zac was cast, Aaron Tveit ( Enjolras from Les Miserables) did part of the workshop which involved Broadway actors, presumably the part of Philip? Hugh had also asked Taron Egerton , Hugh's eventual co-star in Eddie the Eagle, to send him a video of him singing ( Taron, who was in Kingsman, is a graduate of London's famed RADA and won the Stephen Sondheim Appreciation Society's award for Best Musical Actor). So, the competition for Zac for the role was likely tough! *Michelle Williams was on Broadway for a revival of the iconic musical CABARET ( the role identified with Liza Minnelli), where she was followed by Emma Stone. So, we do have cast members who have proven their musical mettle in either film or the theatre or both! |
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 18:48:14 GMT -5
Some clips from memory lane --
From The Boy from Oz -- with at top hat, a cane, and white tails -- could Barnum be very different as The Greatest Showman :
He loves performing for a huge audience --
We know he has performed for President Obama, but did you know he also performed in an exclusive show for the inaguaration of WYNNLasVegas for other presidents ( George Bush, Sr., and Donald Trump) and other audience members like Steven Spielberg and Elizabeth Taylor when he sang this terrific medley put together by John LaChiusa! He reprised it for the same audience at Radio City Music Hall when he hosted the 2005 TONYs --
And his widest audience ( the world!) to perform live to -- the 2009 Oscars! A standing ovation from Hollywood peers for the host!
BONUS: In the same 2009 Oscars, Hugh performs with future co-stars in a movie musical : Amanda Seyfried in Les Miserables...and Zac Efron in The Greatest Showman!
FULL SCREEN viewing available by clicking on icon (with 4 arrows in different directions).
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2017 23:06:39 GMT -5
The trailer for an animated comedy called FERDINAND ( to open in the USA on December 15) has already been released by FOX. GREATEST SHOWMAN will be released on December 25. How soon can we expect a teaser or trailer for SHOWMAN ?
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Post by qwerty on Mar 29, 2017 12:59:49 GMT -5
*Les Miserables was Hugh's first film musical but his musical roots go way back! Though he was trained in a dramatic course at WAAPA, his first professional theatre job was as GASTON ( yes, that Gaston ) in an original production of Beauty and the Beast in Australia. He was then cast as Joe Gillis in Andrew Lloyd Webber's SUNSET BOULEVARD. Trevor Nunn who directed SUNSET B cast him again, this time as another iconic musical theatre character, Curly in the Royal National Theatre's famous revival of OKLAHOMA! in London...That led to his Hollywood career as XMen producer Lauren Shuler Donner saw the production and persuaded Fox and Bryan Singer to cast him as Wolverine! Pause for a few years...and then he went to NYC, first for the concert version of Rodgers and Hammerstein's CAROUSEL. A year later, in 2003, he became THE BOY FROM OZ on Broadway! He won a TONY for it and became widely-known for being both an action star and a musical theatre triple-threat! In 2011, he returned to Broadway in a variety one-man show called BACK ON BROADWAY! For both musical appearances on Broadway, he won rave reviews and the hearts of many fans, Oz-a-lots included Hugh had also been a very popular Oscars host, for the year 2009! *Having seen the entire High School Musical series plus Hairspray, I knew about Zac's singing and dancing abilities which were widely known! His return to movie musicals via Greatest Showman is also welcomed! Btw, before Zac was cast, Aaron Tveit ( Enjolras from Les Miserables) did part of the workshop which involved Broadway actors, presumably the part of Philip? Hugh had also asked Taron Egerton , Hugh's eventual co-star in Eddie the Eagle, to send him a video of him singing ( Taron, who was in Kingsman, is a graduate of London's famed RADA and won the Stephen Sondheim Appreciation Society's award for Best Musical Actor). So, the competition for Zac for the role was likely tough! *Michelle Williams was on Broadway for a revival of the iconic musical CABARET ( the role identified with Liza Minnelli), where he was followed by Emma Stone. So, we do have cast members who have proven their musical mettle in either film or the theatre or both! Since most of the cast have musical backgrounds, then I wouldn't be so worried 😂😂😁 as for Zendaya, I think she sings too. Idk about Rebecca but I'm confident they will do well. |
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Post by qwerty on Mar 29, 2017 13:01:35 GMT -5
Rebecca just talked about TGS and working with Hugh. She said working with Hugh was a fun experience and she described how she had goosebumps reading the script or something 😂 the way she said her experience during filming, she had a lot of fun.
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Post by jo on Mar 29, 2017 16:30:21 GMT -5
Filming was also in Sleepy Hollow the early part of December. Could the filming on Wednesday be pick-ups or maybe reshoots already? Jo |
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Post by mamaleh on Mar 29, 2017 19:28:44 GMT -5
Ha, he reminds me of a combo Robert Angier/Dr. Dolittle in that getup.
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Post by jo on Mar 29, 2017 21:18:21 GMT -5
He must be 7 feet tall with that top hat Taller than Caliban this time Jo |
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Post by jo on Mar 29, 2017 22:17:13 GMT -5
At the CinemaCon -- is there buzz over strong competition for the Oscar ??
*Film -- DUNKIRK - a historical war film by fanfavorite auteur Chris Nolan?
*Actor -- Gary Oldman as Churchill ( Makeup and prosthetics) in THE DARKEST HOUR directed by Joe Wright.
Hugh has worked with Nolan (The Prestige) and Joe Wright ( Pan).
Not too sure how the DDLewis portrayal of a controversial American fashion designer ( they still have to start filming) will go with the voters?? But Steven Spielberg's account of a historical Washington political/journalistic drama ( The Post. also being rushed for filming), with Meryl and Tom Hanks may compete for dramatic impact with the two war films?
Given the much-older white male demos of the AMPAS, they might favor the dramatic war films or the political drama movie!
What sets THE GREATEST SHOWMAN apart will be that it is also a biopic of a known American, in the world of entertainment and popular culture... and that it is a musical! What will set Hugh Jackman's portrayal apart will be his ability to harness his dramatic/singing/dancing talent in a very impressive way ( no other actors in the group can boast of triple threat talent in their respective 2017 movies!). I just hope GREATEST SHOWMAN also has a winning storyline and strong characterizations - it cannot be all just music and dance and spectacle! Although the mood of the time of its release will be perfect -- a movie that opens on Christmas Day!
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Post by jo on Mar 29, 2017 22:38:43 GMT -5
Here's Josh Horowitz of MTV interviewing Zac Efron at the CinemaCon --
Josh is a Hugh favorite when it comes to doing great publicity -- hope Hugh attends CinemaCon today ( Thursday) for the FOX presentation...and that Josh will show his early interview with Hugh, and also maybe an update?
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