Post by jo on Nov 13, 2016 8:13:44 GMT -5
Hugh's longtime talent agency WME ( now WME-IMG) has become much more than just a talent agency for the entertainment and sports businesses.
If you are interested in their rapidly expanding business interests and conglomerations, here's an interesting article from THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER on Ari Emanuel and Patrick Whitesell.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/ari-emanuel-patrick-whitesell-unleashed-879003
Very interesting read!
On three issues which are interesting from the perspective of the film business --
Ari Emanuel and Patrick Whitesell
If you are interested in their rapidly expanding business interests and conglomerations, here's an interesting article from THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER on Ari Emanuel and Patrick Whitesell.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/ari-emanuel-patrick-whitesell-unleashed-879003
Very interesting read!
On three issues which are interesting from the perspective of the film business --
How do you maintain A-list clients when you're in places like Jacksonville or Tallahassee meeting with a college sports program? What happens when Ben Affleck or Matt Damon needs something?
WHITESELL Well, the proof's in the pudding. Since we bought IMG, we signed Jake Gyllenhaal, Ryan Reynolds — and what's happened to their careers? It's hard to sit here without being boastful about it. Ari and I still love being agents.
WHITESELL Well, the proof's in the pudding. Since we bought IMG, we signed Jake Gyllenhaal, Ryan Reynolds — and what's happened to their careers? It's hard to sit here without being boastful about it. Ari and I still love being agents.
Netflix has become a major buyer for you. How long can this streaming television boom last and what do you think is the long-term strategy at Netflix?
WHITESELL It's a land grab, right? [Netflix] is trying to get to a point where they feel like a monopoly. I don't think they've used that word, but to have a "dominant position." It's all about original content for them right now. They licensed all these libraries to get a foothold, and they've done very well with it.
EMANUEL And they really haven't paid proper pricing for that library, right? They've gotten away with that.
WHITESELL Now Amazon is going to go out and release movies theatrically. We're going to see how they do. We just came off this Sundance festival where we had two record-selling movies by a lot. [WME’s indie film division sold Nate Parker’s 'The Birth of a Nation' for $17.5 million to Fox Searchlight and Kenneth Lonergan’s 'Manchester by the Sea' to Amazon for $10 million.] But OK, what happens now? How do they handle them theatrically? If they're Oscar-worthy, how's that campaign? If they do that, great, then they're going to have success. If they don't, [the market will] come back. It was crazy when HBO started doing original content. Now you think that's the gold standard. Disruption is great because it creates more opportunities for our clients. At Netflix, you get the certainty of it getting made. The flipside is, in syndication could your backend be compromised? It could be.
EMANUEL Patrick and I are trying new things. Some have worked, some haven't worked. We don't like to talk about any of the ones that haven't worked. (Laughs.) But the good thing about the company and the clients is they want to try new things. [WME also helped start merchant bank Raine, which backed Vice Media and 'South Park' creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s Important Studios, and Media Rights Capital, which produces 'House of Cards' and the 'Ted' movies.] People talk about [risks] because they're all f—ing scared of their own goddamn shadow.
What's going to happen to Paramount? Is consolidation coming to the studios?
EMANUEL We live in a $160 billion ecosystem. The cable bundle is about $100 billion, and then there's about a $50 billion or $60 billion advertising bundle. If the majors do not solve that issue, they will get marginalized by the Amazons, Netflixes and SVOD services. Then there will be consolidation. If the studios can figure out a solve, I think there will be less. I don't think Disney is going anywhere so quickly, I don't think Comcast [is either] because they have their own distribution. I don't think Fox is going anywhere, I don't think Warner Bros. is going anywhere, and neither is CBS — these are still good businesses, but they have to solve for the bundle, and if they can find a solution, I don't think there's going to be as much consolidation as people think.
WHITESELL It's a land grab, right? [Netflix] is trying to get to a point where they feel like a monopoly. I don't think they've used that word, but to have a "dominant position." It's all about original content for them right now. They licensed all these libraries to get a foothold, and they've done very well with it.
EMANUEL And they really haven't paid proper pricing for that library, right? They've gotten away with that.
WHITESELL Now Amazon is going to go out and release movies theatrically. We're going to see how they do. We just came off this Sundance festival where we had two record-selling movies by a lot. [WME’s indie film division sold Nate Parker’s 'The Birth of a Nation' for $17.5 million to Fox Searchlight and Kenneth Lonergan’s 'Manchester by the Sea' to Amazon for $10 million.] But OK, what happens now? How do they handle them theatrically? If they're Oscar-worthy, how's that campaign? If they do that, great, then they're going to have success. If they don't, [the market will] come back. It was crazy when HBO started doing original content. Now you think that's the gold standard. Disruption is great because it creates more opportunities for our clients. At Netflix, you get the certainty of it getting made. The flipside is, in syndication could your backend be compromised? It could be.
EMANUEL Patrick and I are trying new things. Some have worked, some haven't worked. We don't like to talk about any of the ones that haven't worked. (Laughs.) But the good thing about the company and the clients is they want to try new things. [WME also helped start merchant bank Raine, which backed Vice Media and 'South Park' creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s Important Studios, and Media Rights Capital, which produces 'House of Cards' and the 'Ted' movies.] People talk about [risks] because they're all f—ing scared of their own goddamn shadow.
What's going to happen to Paramount? Is consolidation coming to the studios?
EMANUEL We live in a $160 billion ecosystem. The cable bundle is about $100 billion, and then there's about a $50 billion or $60 billion advertising bundle. If the majors do not solve that issue, they will get marginalized by the Amazons, Netflixes and SVOD services. Then there will be consolidation. If the studios can figure out a solve, I think there will be less. I don't think Disney is going anywhere so quickly, I don't think Comcast [is either] because they have their own distribution. I don't think Fox is going anywhere, I don't think Warner Bros. is going anywhere, and neither is CBS — these are still good businesses, but they have to solve for the bundle, and if they can find a solution, I don't think there's going to be as much consolidation as people think.
The diversity issue is front and center. Do you agree agencies aren't putting enough diverse directors on shortlists for jobs?
EMANUEL Hold on. The top five shows packaged by agencies all have diversity in them. Go through them!
That's the TV business, not film.
WHITESELL Well, in the film business, you go meet with the studios because, remember, they're the buyer. We're the seller. They usually say, "Here's what we're looking for, here's what we need, here is our slate." And then we react to that and bring them ideas based upon it. I'm not trying to put all the responsibility on them. It's a shared responsibility. It's not just African-Americans, it's Hispanics, it's Asians, it's everything. It's women. But the notion that the agencies are just holding back their diverse projects is crazy. It's crazy.
EMANUEL Hold on. The top five shows packaged by agencies all have diversity in them. Go through them!
That's the TV business, not film.
WHITESELL Well, in the film business, you go meet with the studios because, remember, they're the buyer. We're the seller. They usually say, "Here's what we're looking for, here's what we need, here is our slate." And then we react to that and bring them ideas based upon it. I'm not trying to put all the responsibility on them. It's a shared responsibility. It's not just African-Americans, it's Hispanics, it's Asians, it's everything. It's women. But the notion that the agencies are just holding back their diverse projects is crazy. It's crazy.
Ari Emanuel and Patrick Whitesell