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Post by mamaleh on Jun 8, 2013 7:19:09 GMT -5
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Post by foxie on Jun 8, 2013 8:55:12 GMT -5
I guess Hugh wont be there we will look for you jen and I will be in NYC if u want to get together for lunch let us know
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Post by birchie on Jun 9, 2013 19:20:15 GMT -5
Well the opening number NPH said he's only there cause someone passed on hosting...I think that would be Hugh and at the end there was that dig to the Les Miserables movie singing.
Hmmmm...It was a good number otherwise.
Sue
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Post by foxie on Jun 9, 2013 19:23:39 GMT -5
It was a great number but I didn't hear the les Mis comment but it was hard to understand
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Post by birchie on Jun 9, 2013 19:52:14 GMT -5
It was a great number but I didn't hear the les Mis comment but it was hard to understand First he asked for a Tom Hooper Les Mis closeup then it was rehashing an old dig from last year when all the theater people were saying singing live was no big deal because they do it live every night etc. Gotta go Liam Neeson is on.... Sue I was rushing...what he said was that they didn't need closeups to prove that they were singing live cause they do it 8 shows a week etc...same stuff that went on last year... |
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Post by jo on Jun 9, 2013 20:13:43 GMT -5
I missed the opening number, except for the last minute ( I can rewatch the replay later today) -- but what was that dig for ?? Did Hugh leave them at a lurch? But they have always been insistent - thinking that Hugh has time only for them. If he says NO, that is it! It may have been written as a script for him - but did NPH have to say it?? After all that Hugh Jackman has done for the Broadway community - don't they even recognize that Hugh himself was recognized with a nomination by his Hollywood peers and the movie itself by the Oscars nominating board for a potential Best Picture honor? Were it not for the success of the movie musical adaptation - I doubt that another revival of Les Mis this soon would have been in the works. I never thought theatre people could be so petty and jealous  They have obviously missed the concept of live singing that Hooper and his actors wanted to embue the movie musical version -- it was never meant to be a dig at theatre singing, but to inject more realism to how they used to do it for older movie musicals. It was more about acting out the portrayal, only complemented by the singing choices! Theatre people may not agree -- but are theatre people a little dense of cinematic concepts or just always feeling they are always in the shadow of big Hollywood movies and actors?  I think I was right in watching the replay of the French Open at Roland Garros first, before tuning in to the TONYs. The people there know how to honor their gods! Great to watch the amazing record-breaking performance of Rafa Nadal  I will see the replay of that TONY portion today - but won't bother with the rest after I have seen it again...unless Hugh slips in  Jo |
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Post by jo on Jun 9, 2013 20:22:06 GMT -5
Re the Cinderella number --
A few years ago, an international production was presented here in Manila, with the international cast coming from Australia and other theatre companies around the world.
We had the beauty and unbelievable youthful appeal and the crystalline voice of a Lea Salonga ( even if she is middle-aged now) and our Prince Charming was definitely much more dashing than the Broadway counterpart! Our stage sets could compare at the same level!
I guess this means that theatrical quality has improved worldwide because a lot of people now watch these productions not just in the great white way ...and they expect outstanding stagings wherever the magic of theatre is supposed to work!
I wish there is fresher writing for the TONYs.
Jo
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Post by JH4HJ on Jun 9, 2013 20:26:04 GMT -5
Fantastic, HUGE opening number. Well done by all. RE the Les Mis "dig" I found NPH to be cheeky not snide. No such thing as bad publicity. I'm glad it got a mention. . . . But oh how I would have loved to see Hugh do that number!!
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Post by birchie on Jun 9, 2013 20:58:07 GMT -5
Fantastic, HUGE opening number. Well done by all. RE the Les Mis "dig" I found NPH to be cheeky not snide. No such thing as bad publicity. I'm glad it got a mention. . . . But oh how I would have loved to see Hugh do that number!! I guess after hearing all the snarky remarks last year I was offended that it was carried on to the Tony stage. But, you're right it's still publicity! I really wish Hugh had done the Tony's instead of the Walmart gig! That little tap dancer was amazing and I love that Cyndi Lauper won...first female to win best score!!! > I hate Neil's suit. Sue |
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Post by jo on Jun 9, 2013 21:15:21 GMT -5
I suspect it was not the Walmart event which took precedence over the TONYs. I have a feeling that the script of DAYS OF FUTURE PAST was rewritten to have a more expansive role for Wolverine. Wasn't it mentioned that while other big stars come and go for the filming in Montreal, that Hugh is in for the duration of the shoot? Maybe we can blame Bryan Singer and the producers for making the movie another starring vehicle for Wolvie  Of course the massive publicity and promotion trail for THE WOLVERINE before its international release is probably the more important reason for his unavailability. Or that he would rather not make a choice between the TONYs and the OSCARS, if that is another issue? Re WHO IS AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF -- *Glad it won for Best Revival ( as expected by many) -- I hope it will play much longer than the current season -- too bad that plays aren't always on stage that long. I would have wanted to have seen that intense play. * Sue --- you were probably very young then -- but were you already living in western Massachusetts when they filmed Who Is Afraid of Virginia Wolf at Amherst College and vicinity? I had just arrived at UMass and the thought of maybe seeing any filming with Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton was mind-boggling then. LOL - I never saw one sign they were around - but I did linger at the Amherst Common a bit *I do have the DVD of the movie -- I think I will revisit it, given there is very little chance I could see the revival on Broadway. EDIT: Wow - and Tracy Letts ( as George in Who's Afraid...) beats Tom Hanks and Nathan Lane for acting honors! Jo |
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Post by birchie on Jun 9, 2013 21:59:21 GMT -5
I suspect it was not the Walmart event which took precedence over the TONYs. I have a feeling that the script of DAYS OF FUTURE PAST was rewritten to have a more expansive role for Wolverine. Wasn't it mentioned that while other big stars come and go for the filming in Montreal, that Hugh is in for the duration of the shoot? Maybe we can blame Bryan Singer and the producers for making the movie another starring vehicle for Wolvie Of course the massive publicity and promotion trail for THE WOLVERINE before its international release is probably the more important reason for his unavailability. Or that he would rather not make a choice between the TONYs and the OSCARS, if that is another issue? Re WHO IS AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF -- *Glad it won for Best Revival ( as expected by many) -- I hope it will play much longer than the current season -- too bad that plays aren't always on stage that long. I would have wanted to have seen that intense play. * Sue --- you were probably very young then -- but were you already living in western Massachusetts when they filmed Who Is Afraid of Virginia Wolf at Amherst College and vicinity? I had just arrived at UMass and the thought of maybe seeing any filming with Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton was mind-boggling then. LOL - I never saw one sign they were around - but I did linger at the Amherst Common a bit *I do have the DVD of the movie -- I think I will revisit it, given there is very little chance I could see the revival on Broadway. EDIT: Wow - and Tracy Letts ( as George in Who's Afraid...) beats Tom Hanks and Nathan Lane for acting honors! Jo Wow, just watched Cicely...very classy lady. Jo, I'm not that much younger...Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf came out the year after I graduated high school. I was very aware of them filming in Northampton the previous year. There were numerous bits on the news whenever Liz & Dick were spotted around the area. I love how Tracy Letts said "we're not competitors we're peers..." To Tom & the others... Short pause to watch Kinky Boots number... As for Hugh, I'm sure there were a number of factors in his choice not to host the Tony's. Also, I think he has to be tired since he's been working almost non-stop for over 2 yrs. I hope he gets a chance at the Oscars again though...hopefully he'll have a few months to rest after August when DoFP wraps. I'm quite sure he'll be asked to do the Tony's many more times. I enjoyed almost everything and always like seeing the performances of shows I have only read/heard about. Too bad Stephanie didn't win. Pippin just won best musical revival...stray thoughts...I thought Sigourney Weaver looked beautiful...Matthew Broderick & Sally Fields were a good match as presenters...Jake Gyllenhall was very sweet helping Cicely on stage...more later. Sue |
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Post by wildfire on Jun 9, 2013 22:19:10 GMT -5
My friend's daughter's sister-in-law, Carrie Coons was nominated for best actress tonight for Virginia Woolf. She did not win, but the play did, and so did her boyfriend, Tracy Letts!
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Post by broadwaygal on Jun 9, 2013 23:04:28 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Tonys tonight. I am thrilled that KINKY BOOTS won for Best Musical. I have a disclaimer -
I know a few people involved with Kinky Boots, so I was hoping for it to go all the way.
Big congratulations to Cyndi Lauper who wrote a fantastic score and to Billy Porter for Best Actor in a Musical!
I loved NPH's opening number, and I wasn't bothered at all by the Les Miz joke. I thought it was funny,
and I didn't take it as a dig at Hugh. It was the Adam Lambert comments when the movie came out that really
pissed me off. But that's old news and I know it was already discussed on the board at that time.
Do we know for a fact that they asked Hugh first to host this year? I know Michael Riedel said it, but he
doesn't always get it right. He predicted that Bette Midler was going to be nominated. Maybe Hugh wanted to,
but he may have actually had "Scheduling conflicts" like they always say.
Cheryl
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Post by chessie on Jun 9, 2013 23:17:48 GMT -5
The Tonys are by far the best awards shown on TV. It's always a treat to see scenes from some of the shows that are currently running. NPH did a commendable job - that opening number was really impressive.
It was nice to see the show back at RCMH, where it belongs!
Carol
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Post by broadwaygal on Jun 9, 2013 23:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Jun 9, 2013 23:59:27 GMT -5
Someone's already put up a YouTube upload of the TONYs Opening Number -- www.gossipcop.com/tony-awards-2013-video-opening-neil-patrick-harris-tonys-mike-tyson-dancing-shia-labeouf-joke-les-miserables-diss/I do agree that the TONYs is the most entertaining awards show there is -- because of the variety of its musical theatre productions and the live performing talents of its actors. But it is the least watched of the big awards shows -- is it the taste for musicals...or is it that too few people have access to this kind of entertainment? and the same poster did repeat that " they did make a dig at Les Miserables" ( the movie musical). Yeah, they can sing 8 shows a week - but how long during the day -- two and half hours a performance. Certainly not the whole day/even night singing that Hugh et al had to deliver during filming. Let me see them do 17 continous takes for Bring Him Home or 28 continous takes for Stars. And that is just secondary, as the primary task that the film actor had to do was to wrench out an acting portrayal, complemented only by the singing choices! Yeah, did they really show a "strong" Valjean carry Marius on his back at the sewers or was it just all pretend? Or can their stage Valjean even carry an ill Fantine up the stairs at the dock. What about The Confrontation -- was it just a singing duel ( who sounds loudest???) or was there a real fighting duel while singing the counterpoint song of conflict? Or a truly emaciated Fantine gasping out her dying song? Or they did they have a healthy actress showing that she was dying of consumption? Or were their tears and emotions as real and as moving as Eddie Redmayne singing of his lost comrades, while showing that he was still recovering from his wounds? Onstage, they put a blanket around him - and presto - that was Marius in convalescence! Sorry, but there was no need to make that unnecessary dig, even if the intention is to simply make fun ( or was it jealous mockery) of another performing branch. It is not as if Hugh were not a TONY-winning and much-acclaimed musical theatre actor. Sounded witchy to me Sometimes comparisons are odious - there was no need to do that, especially if the material has its own appeal and strengths depending on what kind of performing art is being used as the medium of artistic expression. Jo |
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Post by bandala on Jun 10, 2013 4:58:31 GMT -5
Photos of Hugh yesterday were of him and Deb doing the usual walking the dog, hanging out stuff. And there was an "extreme close up"-" we sing, LIVE, eight shows a week." Les Mis joke by NPH. Ack.
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Post by Jamie on Jun 10, 2013 10:42:14 GMT -5
As much as I would have liked to see him, it's understandable that Hugh wasn't at this year's Tonys. He has been a major presence for the past several years, and while NPH doesn't get typed with a once a year hosting job, Hugh could be seen as hogging the limelight. He may have a major show coming up and you wouldn't want to wear out your welcome with the voters.
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Post by birchie on Jun 10, 2013 11:07:21 GMT -5
As much as I would have liked to see him, it's understandable that Hugh wasn't at this year's Tonys. He has been a major presence for the past several years, and while NPH doesn't get typed with a once a year hosting job, Hugh could be seen as hogging the limelight. He may have a major show coming up and you wouldn't want to wear out your welcome with the voters.Good point!  I was glad to see this morning that the show got good ratings. I hope the show keeps being aired...I think CBS has a contract till 2018. It's the closest thing we have to the old variety shows where you could see singing, dancing and comedy all in one place. I really enjoy watching all the performances. I think it's the best award show and a great night of entertainment! Sue |
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Post by mamaleh on Jun 10, 2013 11:20:23 GMT -5
It had to happen: a sacrilegious post on All That Chat: "Neil for Boy from Oz Posted by: PlayStu (playbilstu@aol.com) 12:00 pm EDT 06/10/13 Mr Patrick blew the roof off of Radio City with that opening number. Why isn't on Broadway. I think he would be great as Peter Allen in Boy from Oz or The Music Man...." I, too, thought the opening number was excellent--great writing, great execution. I hope when Hugh eventually (I hope) hosts again, the writers will be similarly inspired. My order of preference for Best Musical: A CHRISTMAS STORY--engaging, imaginative and filled with wow-producing, tuneful musical numbers that appealed to both heart and head (Of course, it had no practical chance of winning.) MATILDA--layered with ideas in a story within a story, creative, bursting with energy and amazing lyrics that benefited from repeated listenings KINKY BOOTS--"feel good" show with one really outstanding number: "The History of Wrong Guys"; most of the rest seemed like cookie-cutter hooks on generic pop tunes BRING IT ON--Full disclosure: this was the only Tony-nominated show (play or musical) I didn't see. But the excerpts didn't excite me. Ellen |
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Post by birchie on Jun 10, 2013 14:44:57 GMT -5
It had to happen: a sacrilegious post on All That Chat: "Neil for Boy from Oz Posted by: PlayStu (playbilstu@aol.com) 12:00 pm EDT 06/10/13 Mr Patrick blew the roof off of Radio City with that opening number. Why isn't on Broadway. I think he would be great as Peter Allen in Boy from Oz or The Music Man...." <snip> Ellen I've seen a lot of Neil over the years and while I like him and I own the Dr Horrible DVD, I don't think he has the talent to sustain a show like TBFO and he's not a dancer. Sure people can be taught steps, but I don't think he has natural talent in that area and to me he always looks awkward when he dances. I also don't think he's very versatile as a singer and I'm not sure how much vocal training he's had. I think he's made the most of the talent he has and he's got the charm and charisma and I know he has done some theater so maybe he'd be better than I think. If anyone has seen him in a full musical role on stage they may have a different view and I'd love to hear another opinion. Music Man might work, I'd don't think it's as demanding a role as TBFO. He has the right look and the cheekiness for Peter, but I can't see him in that show except maybe as a TV special. Sue |
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Post by jo on Jun 10, 2013 18:24:41 GMT -5
From the feedback on the article re the Les Mis dig --
Was that you, Jamie? You put it very well. Some people are a little dense understanding the point that Hooper et al were trying to make when he referred to live singing ( versus pre- recorded songs). They should have done their homework first.
Re your comment about "most of the people in the audience would have sold their souls to be in the film." -- that is probably the real heart of all these brickbats against the movie musical adaptation. The ironic twist is that the comments are coming from the Broadway side of the pond. It should have been the WestEnders who should have protested -- but maybe they appreciated that Colm, Samantha, the barricade boys, the factory girls, even Bamatabois ( now on Broadway in Matilda) and a few who were leads in other London shows ( Hannah, Caroline) loved the musical enough to do their best in the film adaptation no matter how relatively small their parts were.
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Post by jo on Jun 10, 2013 18:36:42 GMT -5
Re further ATC comments on NPH for a revival of The Boy from Oz --
*No one agreed
*No one wanted TBFO revived
*Someone said that while NPH was sensational hosting, his skills are one-dimensional ( can't think of the exact words) for some shows. Hmm - I think NPH can act ( I have seen him in one procedural drama series appearance and he was good, playing a disturbed person. Maybe it is a matter of the right show - he is good at being snarky or disturbed - a play might work better for him). Not sure that the Peter Allen persona is something that he can shine through.
*The success of TBFO was partly because the Peter Allen songbook was very familiar...but it was Hugh's very likable and charismatic personality and his fourth wall antics which made it a triumphant success.
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Post by Jamie on Jun 10, 2013 21:13:18 GMT -5
From the feedback on the article re the Les Mis dig -- Was that you, Jamie? You put it very well. Some people are a little dense understanding the point that Hooper et al were trying to make when he referred to live singing ( versus pre- recorded songs). They should have done their homework first. Re your comment about "most of the people in the audience would have sold their souls to be in the film." -- that is probably the real heart of all these brickbats against the movie musical adaptation. The ironic twist is that the comments are coming from the Broadway side of the pond. It should have been the WestEnders who should have protested -- but maybe they appreciated that Colm, Samantha, the barricade boys, the factory girls, even Bamatabois ( now on Broadway in Matilda) and a few who were leads in other London shows ( Hannah, Caroline) loved the musical enough to do their best in the film adaptation no matter how relatively small their parts were. Jo Yes Jo that was me. Just couldn't resist slapping back at the digs. Have computer must type. smiley-computer004 |
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Post by jo on Jun 10, 2013 22:27:20 GMT -5
I added this to what you posted on BWW --
Without fail, someone ( female and a 2012-enrolled member of BWW) responded that I shoould " chill out, it was only a joke".
Ha - an insensitive comment - I wonder how she will react when someone makes a insensitive comment about her in public :rolleyes:
Some people make careless comments without trying to appreciate its impact - that is why I hate the anonymity of the internet often!
EDIT: LOL - of course stubborn me would not let that comment go -- here's my reply:
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