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Post by jo on Jan 15, 2013 18:48:13 GMT -5
If you live somewhere in Asia, you can easily find hardcopy bootlegs of movies, most likely taken from master copies used in cinemas or maybe from awards screeners. I visited one such place for the first time and I saw Lincoln, Argo, Silver Linings Playbook, Zero Dark Thirty, The Hobbit, whatever...but no Les Miserables yet. But the other day, I finally came across one of Les Miserables - and I got a few copies ;D
It was a great temptation - but I did not even open the sleeve -- and I am saving all my attention to seeing the movie on the big screen for a number of times. I will watch it to tide me over from the last chance I can see it on the big screen until the DVD/BluRay arrives!
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Post by birchie on Jan 15, 2013 19:42:11 GMT -5
If you live somewhere in Asia, you can easily find hardcopy bootlegs of movies, most likely taken from master copies used in cinemas or maybe from awards screeners. I visited one such place for the first time and I saw Lincoln, Argo, Silver Linings Playbook, Zero Dark Thirty, The Hobbit, whatever...but no Les Miserables yet. But the other day, I finally came across one of Les Miserables - and I got a few copies ;D It was a great temptation - but I did not even open the sleeve -- and I am saving all my attention to seeing the movie on the big screen for a number of times. I will watch it to tide me over from the last chance I can see it on the big screen until the DVD/BluRay arrives! Jo I know the feeling, Jo. I have an app on my TV that connects me to pretty much anything I want, but before Christmas I wouldn't even look for Les Miserables because I wanted my first viewing to be in a theater. I got to see it another time but have watched it 4 more times, so far, at home since I discovered it a couple days ago. I was sick for a while or I would have seen it more! I can't wait for the BluRay/DVD. My boys got me a BluRay player for my birthday so I'll be ready for it! It's so nice when they pay attention LOL! Can't wait to read your analysis of the movie. Sue |
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Post by ruby on Jan 15, 2013 21:24:54 GMT -5
Wouldn't Hugh be pleased to know that you support global film piracy.
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Post by birchie on Jan 15, 2013 22:11:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't Hugh be pleased to know that you support global film piracy. I don't think he'd be nasty & rude. |
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Post by jo on Jan 16, 2013 14:45:30 GMT -5
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Post by birchie on Jan 19, 2013 19:27:02 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the Oscars a lot today for some reason...and not in a happy way!!! More like...'well this may be the last year I watch the Oscars' kind of way. After seeing all of the nominated performances, I don't have any doubt that Hugh gave the best performance of the 5 but it seems that everyone thinks it will go to DDL. It seems the Oscar voters no longer vote for the actual quality of the performance. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I've seen a lot of that in recent years. I still think Les Miserables is the best picture but lately it seems that Argo is back on the this should win everything train. I'm still annoyed that they went to 10 best pictures instead of 5. i don't see the point to that at all! I'm also still nauseated that one of the 5 best actress nominations went to that little girl, but I already wrote about that so once is enough. Except to add that I haven't begun to think of what wonderful actress who performed spectacularly and knew what she was doing go left off the list in order to nominate the little girl. It's also ridiculous that Tom Hooper wasn't nominated. Then there is the song!!! Don't get me started on whether the voters actually read the rules, if the GG are any indication they most certainly do not!!!  Suddenly is a beautiful lullaby that completely fits into the movie. 'nuff said!! Just wanted to get that off my chest! Sue |
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Post by jo on Jan 19, 2013 19:46:10 GMT -5
I do agree with you wholeheartedly, Sue!
The Oscars and, I am beginning to think, almost all of the awards bodies are politics-ridden, with agendas to push!
To me, it is just something that sounds good on an actor's CV and maybe ups his salary and billing and script first look demands -- but look at how some people have observed that they are also harbingers of bad luck ( what new movies were heralded for Halle B, Charlize, Brody, Jujardin, etc). Good for publicity but does not validate how good he really is, or as it is meant to be!
If Hugh makes it -- well and good. If they decide to give it to DDL -- it doesn't make Hugh less of an excellent actor. His work in Les Miserables is an affirmation of how good he is vis-a-vis his peers! I think Hugh himself looks at how his work in Les Miserables has given him such artistic fulfilment!! And to have accomplished so much in a role that fuses his film and theatre talents must have given him such a wonderful feeling of being totally blessed in his profession!
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Post by foxie on Jan 19, 2013 20:11:23 GMT -5
of our own votes for the sag awards thats 2 votes!!
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Post by birchie on Jan 19, 2013 20:38:41 GMT -5
I do agree with you wholeheartedly, Sue! The Oscars and, I am beginning to think, almost all of the awards bodies are politics-ridden, with agendas to push! To me, it is just something that sounds good on an actor's CV and maybe ups his salary and billing and script first look demands -- but look at how some people have observed that they are also harbingers of bad luck ( what new movies were heralded for Halle B, Charlize, Brody, Jujardin, etc). Good for publicity but does not validate how good he really is, or as it is meant to be! If Hugh makes it -- well and good. If they decide to give it to DDL -- it doesn't make Hugh less of an excellent actor. His work in Les Miserables is an affirmation of how good he is vis-a-vis his peers! I think Hugh himself looks at how his work in Les Miserables has given him such artistic fulfilment!! And to have accomplished so much in a role that fuses his film and theatre talents must have given him such a wonderful feeling of being totally blessed in his profession! Jo So true, Jo! i know he'll take whatever comes with his beautiful philosophical outlook in tact! I know he well never let a win or a loss change his view of this as a life enhancing experience. It's just people like me who will be pissed if he doesn't win...but I'm not nearly as good or as close to JVJ as Hugh is!  For me it will rank up there with his other, though unheralded, memorable performances. At least this time he is getting noticed and I hope it leads to more wonderful parts for him in the future. OK, I just got teary. :'( Sue |
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Post by jo on Jan 19, 2013 20:48:42 GMT -5
I have also been thinking -- will film actors begin to look at the stage as not only a time away while waiting for another good opportunity in the movies to come along? Or when their film careers are no longer as active? Hugh is setting such a good professional example by not just being active on both mediums but also by saying definitively that whether it is on film or on stage, that an actor is motivated by the same emotional truth when he performs or acts! Sometimes, I am really awed by Hugh's eloquently-stated observations and beliefs as a professional actor! I also wonder whether stage actors will look at film, not just to augment their incomes or increase their fame, but also as another medium of self-expression! Eddie Redmayne seems to be following the Jackman path. He has won a TONY and an OLIVIER for RED and has even done a Shakespeare at the Donmar ( Eat your heart out, Hugh Jackman - I am still awaiting the Shakespeare play with Trevor Nunn ) and a movie musical! He is also not daunted to try another genre for his next project - supposedly a superhero movie, if it pushes through! ;D We know that Anne Hathaway has dabbled on stage but not on Broadway yet. She was in the Encores series ( Carnival) and in Shakespeare in the Park ( Central Park) in Twelfth Night. Maybe she will try Broadway for her next stage appearance? I know that not everyone is a fan of Scarlett Johansson, but she has looked at stage roles quite seriously. She backed out from the role of Maria offered to her by ALWebber for the London revival of Sound of Music ( maybe she thought it to be too daunting for her stage debut - she actually went to the Professional School for Children in NYC which trains gifted children for the performing arts)...but won a TONY when she performed the role of Catherine in A View from the Bridge. Her reviews for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof are not so great though - although that might have been directorial choices ...But she seems to be finding her footing onstage - she was in an off-Broadway play when she was not yet famous. I hope Liev Schreiber ( an excellent stage actor) will find better roles in movies that will be an excellent use of his dramatic talent! Denzel and Tom Hanks will be onstage next season! But I hope this is not because they feel they are in the twilight of their film careers! I would like to see stage actors who scoffed at the live singing in the movie musical Les Miserables ( Michael Cerveris, Stephanie J Block, et al) try their luck on film  Jo |
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Post by JH4HJ on Jan 20, 2013 18:56:12 GMT -5
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 20, 2013 20:53:53 GMT -5
I just read that the only LES MIZ-related award won at the London Film critics awards today was for Anne Hathaway. The film wasn't even named among the top films of the year. Joaquin Phoenix won Actor of the Year. Oh, well. The biggies are still to come.
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Post by JH4HJ on Jan 27, 2013 0:15:29 GMT -5
So, the Aussies gave out their own "Oscars" and did NOT give one to Hugh. AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST SCREENPLAY Argo. Chris Terrio Django Unchained. Quentin Tarantino - WINNER Lincoln. Tony Kushner The Master. Paul Thomas Anderson Silver Linings Playbook. David O. Russell Zero Dark Thirty. Mark Boal AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST DIRECTION Argo. Ben Affleck Life Of Pi. Ang Lee Lincoln. Steven Spielberg The Sessions. Ben Lewin Silver Linings Playbook. David O. Russell - WINNER Zero Dark Thirty. Kathryn Bigelow AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST ACTOR Bradley Cooper. Silver Linings Playbook Daniel Day-Lewis. Lincoln - WINNER John Hawkes. The Sessions Hugh Jackman. Les Misérables Joaquin Phoenix. The Master Denzel Washington. Flight AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST ACTRESS Jessica Chastain. Zero Dark Thirty Marion Cotillard. Rust and Bone Nicole Kidman. The Paperboy Jennifer Lawrence. Silver Linings Playbook - WINNER Emmanuelle Riva. Amour Naomi Watts. The Impossible AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST FILM Argo. Ben Affleck, George Clooney, Grant Heslov Les Misérables. Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Debra Hayward, Cameron Mackintosh Life of Pi. Ang Lee, Gil Netter, David Womark Lincoln. Kathleen Kennedy, Steven Spielberg Silver Linings Playbook. Bruce Cohen, Donna Gigliotti, Jonathan Gordon - WINNER Zero Dark Thirty. Kathryn Bigelow, Mark Boal, Megan Ellison 'DISCRETIONARY' AACTA INTERNATIONAL AWARDS BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Robert De Niro - Silver Linings Playbook BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Jacki Weaver - Silver Linings Playbook www.brisbanetimes.com.au/entertainment/movies/silver-linings-playbook-picks-up-best-film-gong-20130127-2dejh.htmlwww.hollywoodreporter.com/news/australia-academys-international-award-best-415657#commentsThere are photos of Russell, but I didn't see any of Hugh. Maybe he didn't attend? |
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 27, 2013 19:37:14 GMT -5
On the SAG Awards red carpet, Eddie Rednayne went on and on about how great Hugh is in LES MIZ, and Giuiliana DiPandi/Rancic marveled at Hugh's drinking abilities after the Golden Globes, LOL. Hoping Hugh pulls off a win tonight against the odds. Update: After interviewing Hugh, Giuliana shrieked excitedly"I love Hugh Jackman"! Get in line, lady.  Ellen |
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 27, 2013 22:00:37 GMT -5
Ah, we'll. It's Day-Lewis. We hoped, but.... It was just an impossible year. BAFTAS next.
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Post by jo on Jan 27, 2013 22:04:42 GMT -5
Better to lose to DDL than to Bradley Cooper!
After this awards season, I will never look at all these " exciting" awards without thinking how politically-tinted the awards are! I couldn't stand the sight of HW smiling on camera. I never thought I would be cheering for Argo because that meant the prediction for SLP didn't come through!
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Post by caligirl on Jan 27, 2013 22:13:43 GMT -5
Surprised Deb is not in atendance.
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Post by Jamie on Jan 27, 2013 22:19:31 GMT -5
Not surprised. He flew from Atlanta to Philadelphia to Los Angeles. Ava was in Philadelphia. He waved to Deb from the Red carpet so she might have come with the children but stayed with them while he did the whole thing with Hathaway. Now back to Atlanta until the Oscars?
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Post by birchie on Jan 27, 2013 22:32:50 GMT -5
Very disappointing but not really surprising anymore.  I was surprised when Ken Howard and whoever were talking about the new combo group and they said it was something like 150,000 voting members! Yikes! If the woman who did that video I posted a few days ago is an example I'm not surprised LM & Hugh didn't win. I may watch the BAFTAs only because they don't waste time on a lot of schtick and get on with it in a nicely amusing way. But I'm only going to watch the Oscars until the Les Miserables cast do whatever it is they are going to do for that musical tribute number. I hope we know whether or not Hugh is going to perform Suddenly live because that is the only other thing I will stay for. I remember years ago, what a big night it used to be. Kind of like what the super bowl is now for many, including snacks & popcorn. It's all changed too much for me. I prefer to just love the movies I love and enjoy them and then I won't give a fig what these awards voters do. Sue |
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Post by jo on Jan 27, 2013 22:55:42 GMT -5
Knowing how the awards get shaped has changed my perspective of how important they are now.
Hugh has given us a tour de force performance, in a role of a lifetime! It is a role which fuses his musical theatre and film talents -- what more can we ask for??
We also know how happy and how accomplished he felt about the role -- artistic fulfilment is what is important and I am glad that he seems to have obtained this from a very important film role. Peer recognition is of course important to some extent, but not when they are politically-tinted or when other things contrive so we do not get the things we want. There were many factors which led to the general negativity towards Les Miserables ( which I will no longer mention here) but they did contribute to the lack of aggressive push for honors for Hugh. Initially, I even thought that he was not getting a fair deal, even with Universal's own marketing department, because he didn't seem to be the center of their marketing push for the movie. But all water under the bridge!
His Valjean role probably has become the standard by which he will view other key aritistic roles in the future. And he will share that feeling of achievement with us! We also have the theatre to look forward to - so we are very enriched by our just being Hugh Jackman fans! Can't ask for more!!
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Post by carouselkathy on Jan 28, 2013 2:09:33 GMT -5
Now that Hugh is an Oscar nominee, he will be looked at differently in the film community. He will most likely be offered more interesting roles. Les Mis is the film that audiences will remember, whether or not it wins the Oscar. Argo is very good and topical now, but Les Mis is a timeless story and will be remembered. Lawrence of Arabia won in 1962, but people became lawyers because of the "loser" To Kill a Mockingbird. Many folks still name their children and pets after "Atticus Finch". My point is that win or lose. LES MIS will be remembered.
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Post by carouselkathy on Jan 28, 2013 2:32:31 GMT -5
Great performances of the past that didn't win: Rosalind Russell in MOURNING BECOMES ELECTRA,
Bette Davis in ALL ABOUT EVE, Marlon Brando in STREETCAR NAME DESIRE, Peter O'Toole in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, Al Pacino in GODFATHER PART II, Liam Neeson in SCHINDLER'S LIST, Jimmy Stewart in MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON and IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE....to name a few. These performances are remembered by audiences and film historians, if not by the Academy. It's all subjective, of course, and some of the above would not have been my Oscar choice, but they are certainly remembered.
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Post by marymagdalene on Jan 28, 2013 2:35:53 GMT -5
Now that Hugh is an Oscar nominee, he will be looked at differently in the film community. He will most likely be offered more interesting roles. Les Mis is the film that audiences will remember, whether or not it wins the Oscar. Argo is very good and topical now, but Les Mis is a timeless story and will be remembered. Lawrence of Arabia won in 1962, but people became lawyers because of the "loser" To Kill a Mockingbird. Many folks still name their children and pets after "Atticus Finch". My point is that win or lose. LES MIS will be remembered. DAMN!!! I must be on FB too much that I cannot "LIKE" this post!!! But other than that, Kathy, I agree... |
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Post by jo on Jan 28, 2013 2:56:55 GMT -5
Kathy,
Thanks - that is quite a list!
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Post by foxie on Jan 28, 2013 8:18:14 GMT -5
I'm a little puzzled by Ben Affleck's being nominated for Best Actor. He was fine but not really a standout. Directing is another matter; it was a very well done movie. But all the non-DDL noms may be moot if indeed LINCOLN sweeps--curiously, without its director being nominated. Why, oh why couldn't Spielberg have made Lincoln the year before, as previously planned, with Liam Neeson? Ellen |
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