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Post by alma on Jul 14, 2016 22:31:12 GMT -5
This is also the first R&H show which changed Musical Theater forever on March 31, 1943. My love of Rodgers & Hammerstein fed my interest in the London production which starred Hugh Jackman. Some of my friends said, "That's Wolverine." I rented the XMen video. This "Wolverine" guy played "Curly"? O.K., he did have screen presence. Finally, the video of OKLAHOMA! became available. A movie star that could do musical theater. Enough for me! Kathy, something very similar happened to me! About twelve or fourteen years ago, I was watching Hugh's Oklahoma one Saturday afternoon on PBS when my children walked by (then in their late teens/early twenties). My daughter asked my son, "That's the guy from the X-Men movie, right? The one who plays Wolverine?" My son confirmed it, but my response, of course, was, "Huh?" I had no idea what they were talking about. Having avoided anything to do with the internet so far, I suddenly had an incentive to start searching for information on this guy. And of course I visited Blockbuster and discovered the X-Men and Wolverine. There's an interesting—and opposite—parallel I can't help comparing this to which makes me smile every time I recall it. When Hugh and Schuyler Hensley were doing the L.A. Comicon for Van Helsing, they were at different ends of the table during a Q & A. Hugh broke into a wonderful, "Poor Judd is dead, poor Judd Fry is dead." That's all he sang. Of course I recognized it immediately. Schuyler looked over at Hugh and cracked a huge grin. But everyone else there was like, "Huh?" These Comic Book Geeks. Something tells me not many of them went home and googled about it, but who knows? Alma
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Post by jo on Jul 14, 2016 22:36:27 GMT -5
Three critics/musical theatre talent seemed to have all appreciated Hugh's ability to segue from song to words and vice versa -- Adam Guettel ( grandson of Richard Rodgers; composed Light in the Piazza) -- David Heppel -- Ben Brantley -- Hmmm.... why does this ability for a musical theatre actor to look at musicals as simply another way to tell a story remind me of a major musical adapted for film 14 years later Jo
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Post by jo on Jul 14, 2016 22:59:34 GMT -5
Since there is a celebratory mood related to the 18th anniversary of Hugh appearing for the first time in an international production ...which would lead to his becoming a film/stage performer -- may I choose replaying some overtures/orchestral music from Richard Rodgers -- From CAROUSEL -- The Carousel Waltz deserves its own celebration
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Post by mamaleh on Jul 15, 2016 0:12:22 GMT -5
The "Carousel Waltz" is a lovely piece of music--and very clever. I like how, early on, it mimics the calliope-like sounds one usually hears as the painted horse figures bob up and down on a moving carousel. I like other Rodgers waltzes, too: The "Cinderella Waltz", "Falling in Love with Love", etc.
Ellen
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Post by carouselkathy on Jul 15, 2016 0:13:09 GMT -5
Thanks, Jo!
THE CAROUSEL WALTZ is the ringtone on my cell.
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 19:29:45 GMT -5
If I recall right, this was the musical which made me fall in love with the music of RODGERS AND HAMMERSTEIN! South Pacific -- And the overture with its lush music performed at Carnegie Hall -- Maybe because it resonated with me, as it takes place near where I live ( the eastern Philippines is surrounded by the Pacific), there is drama ( war, racism, love, etc) and it was a book that I read after I had seen the movie. "Tales of the South Pacific" by James Michener -- I remember giving that name as a response ( on the question as to which was the most recent book that I had read) to a panel interview for my Fulbright scholarship to the USA I had seen it revived twice -- both at the Lincoln Center ( with Florence Hendesron the first time around; the recent revival at the Baumont). But the movie is one musical I occasionally still visits. Maybe John Kerr also had something to do with it Some Enchanted Evening, Younger than Springtime, Bali Hai, There Is Nothing Like a Dame, CockEyed Optimist, Dites Moi, even Happy Talk, Twin Soliloquies, etc. -- another gorgeous score by the talented duo! Jo
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 19:54:29 GMT -5
This musical also had an Asian theme, married with Western sensibilities --
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 20:03:23 GMT -5
The fifth musical which rounded off Rodgers & Hammerstain top five musical scores which were successfully translated into film ! And this time, the cultural theme is brought to old-world Europe! Who can ever forget the most famous movie musical overture of all time The Sound of Music --
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 20:08:11 GMT -5
And for you, Ellen The Cinderella Waltz --
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 20:15:17 GMT -5
And it all comes back to the musical which became the landmark work for American musical thaatre!
OKLAHOMA! --
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 20:18:49 GMT -5
If I had a bucket list of musicals that I would like to see -- It would be the top five Rodgers & Hammerstein musicals performed in repertory, with Hugh Jackman as Curly, Billy, Emile, the King, and Captain Von Trapp Or maybe a one-off concert with Hugh singing all those roles! Maybe with Audra singing Aunt Eller, Aunt Nellie, Bloody Mary, Lady Thiang, and Baroness Von Trapp Jo
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Post by carouselkathy on Jul 15, 2016 22:36:14 GMT -5
Jo, could we add space for Kelli O'Hara and Brian Stokes Mitchell?
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Post by jo on Jul 15, 2016 23:29:55 GMT -5
Of course Choose your own ( not poison - LOL) favorite roles for them Jo
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Post by mamaleh on Mar 25, 2017 12:53:00 GMT -5
I remember that article well. I had only recently seen THE BOY FROM OZ for the first time and was hooked on everything Jackman from that point on. I might not even have decided to watch yet another iteration of that old warhorse OKLAHOMA!, but when I realized who was playing Curly, you can bet I was glued to my PBS station that (I think) Thanksgiving weekend, if I recall correctly. Definitely something to be thankful for.
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Post by jo on Mar 25, 2017 18:28:07 GMT -5
Ellen,
Did you see Patrick Wilson in the Broadway revival -- which happened a year or so before Hugh's OKLAHOMA! became available in the USA?
Patrick has a good voice but from the clips I have seen of him in the show, he did not bring the charisma that was Hugh's trademark as Curly.
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Post by jo on Mar 25, 2017 19:07:59 GMT -5
I just found this YouTube unofficial upload of a rehearsal version of the Broadway Oklahoma! in 2002. It is not the complete musical but long enough to appreciate the substance of Trevor Nunn's reinterpretation of the show. So far, I have watched it till the THE SURREY WITH THE FRINGE ON TOP ( my favorite Hugh song in the show) -- Patrick plays Curly a little differently, sorry to say, a slightly duller version of the lead. His Curly seems to be more of the goody-goody version ( closer to the McRae version maybe) and unfortunately his Curly does not force the spotlight on him, unlike Hugh whose stunning stage presence registers right from the start! Patrick also acts with even more stage gestures...at that time, he has not learned the economy of movements that film screens demand ( but to which his moderate success in film these days has transformed him into a more quieter actor). Hugh was really special as Curly -- as soon as he entered the stage, he was electrifying ( did you notice that he actually repeated the Oklahoma! stage entrance for Back on Broadway -- no orchestra, off-stage singing?)! His acting is also more tempered and more telling, compared to Patrick's interpretation. But Hugh played Curly more naughty, with a twinkle in his eye and an eyebrow lift ( not literally) almost He was also villainy in that scene with Jud in his shack ( Poor Jud)... Admittedly, Patrick has a beautiful voice, but combined with his acting and his stage presence, he did not seem a match to Hugh Jackman's Curly. Of course I am biased But I think I will also enjoy this new version, tempered though my expectations are, till the rest of the upload ( it is only 40 minutes-long, so presumably the final act is not included). Then I will watch the RNT Oklahoma! with Hugh Jackman once again Jo
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Post by jo on Mar 25, 2017 19:24:09 GMT -5
Why did Hugh not make it to Broadway, when Josefina Gabrielle could?
From Maureen Lipman's account ( btw, I also prefer her Aunt Eller), it seems that the first time around, Actor's Equity was not in favor of bringing the whole cast, presumably the major cast, to Broadway (the show closed in London in late spring/early summer 1999). Trevor Nunn wanted the first few months to feature the originals ( to be replaced by a Broadway cast immediately), which captured his full theatrical vision of the revival, but AE would have none of that. Maureen's personal view of the situation was that AE also wanted TONY honors to go an AE cast, not to the London cast... The President of AE who saw the London version live actually apologized for not being able to swing the transfer that Trevor Nunn wanted. Negotiations continued but Trevor Nunn's other commitments also hampered the timing of any Broadway transfer. Eventually, a deal was worked out but with Josefina Gabrielle being the only member of the original cast who made it to Broadway who was not a member of Actor's Equity. Shuler Helmsley is American and presumably already a member of Actor's Equity.
What happened to Hugh Jackman?
Well, like Josefina and Shuler, he also went westward from London! Not to Broadway, not to the real Oklahoma! either...but further westward...to Hollywood! To become another electrifying character, this time on the film screen. It would be the start of his 17-year journey as WOLVERINE!
However, XMEN-1 was filmed in 1999 and released in 2000, so why wasn't he available for Broadway? Harvey Weinstein found him and cast him together with James Mangold in KATE AND LEOPOLD. He also appeared in another rom-com called SOMEONE LIKE YOU. And presumably in late 2001 and/or early 2002, he was filming XMEN-2, which was released in May 2003. But he also found another way to get back to the musical stage via the Rodgers centenary concert at Carnegie Hall in the summer of 2002 - CAROUSEL with Audra McDonald ( Why they never filmed that concert is beyond everybody *rolleyes* ).
I think he also did a workshop for THE BOY FROM OZ sometime in the summer of 2002 or thereabouts, with Ruthie Henshall ( Fantine in the 10th Anniversary concert of Les Miserables) as Liza.
By 2003, he came back to musical theatre via THE BOY FROM OZ!
I wonder, what would have been his career if Lauren Shuler had not seen OKLAHOMA! in London and persuaded Bryan Singer and Fox to cast Hugh as Wolverine, when the original casting fell through? Would it have been the theatre mostly? Or would some other producers or directors have found him onstage and persuaded him to come to Hollywood? We also know that he met Patrick Whitesell, his longtime agent and now co-chairman of WME-IMG, backstage in Oklahoma!, so the journey to Hollywood would have probably happened anyway.
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Post by njr on Mar 26, 2017 9:47:51 GMT -5
I just found this YouTube unofficial upload of a rehearsal version of the Broadway Oklahoma! in 2002. It is not the complete musical but long enough to appreciate the substance of Trevor Nunn's reinterpretation of the show. So far, I have watched it till the THE SURREY WITH THE FRINGE ON TOP ( my favorite Hugh song in the show) -- Patrick plays Curly a little differently, sorry to say, a slightly duller version of the lead. His Curly seems to be more of the goody-goody version ( closer to the McRae version maybe) and unfortunately his Curly does not force the spotlight on him, unlike Hugh whose stunning stage presence registers right from the start! Patrick also acts with even more stage gestures...at that time, he has not learned the economy of movements that film screens demand ( but to which his moderate success in film these days has transformed him into a more quieter actor). Hugh was really special as Curly -- as soon as he entered the stage, he was electrifying ( did you notice that he actually repeated the Oklahoma! stage entrance for Back on Broadway -- no orchestra, off-stage singing?)! His acting is also more tempered and more telling, compared to Patrick's interpretation. But Hugh played Curly more naughty, with a twinkle in his eye and an eyebrow lift ( not literally) almost He was also villainy in that scene with Jud in his shack ( Poor Jud)... Admittedly, Patrick has a beautiful voice, but combined with his acting and his stage presence, he did not seem a match to Hugh Jackman's Curly. Of course I am biased But I think I will also enjoy this new version, tempered though my expectations are, till the rest of the upload ( it is only 40 minutes-long, so presumably the final act is not included). Then I will watch the RNT Oklahoma! with Hugh Jackman once again Jo Patrick can't hold a candle to Hugh! Of course I too am biased! Nancy
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Post by jo on Mar 26, 2017 10:27:18 GMT -5
I think it was an actual performance, not a rehearsal version.
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Post by carouselkathy on Mar 26, 2017 11:50:04 GMT -5
I saw Patrick at the Gershwin. It was my first time in NYC. I was there for the Richard Rodgers Centennial. I loved the production and thought Patrick was fine, although I never saw Hugh do OKLAHOMA! live. I only saw the DVD, which was only partly filmed in front of a live audience. Hugh's great, but that clip from the MacIntosh Celebration gives a much better presentation of his live performance as "Curly".
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Post by njr on Mar 27, 2017 10:16:53 GMT -5
I saw Patrick at the Gershwin. It was my first time in NYC. I was there for the Richard Rodgers Centennial. I loved the production and thought Patrick was fine, although I never saw Hugh do OKLAHOMA! live. I only saw the DVD, which was only partly filmed in front of a live audience. Hugh's great, but that clip from the MacIntosh Celebration gives a much better presentation of his live performance as "Curly". I bought that DVD, watched the whole thing only to find that they had cut out Hugh's performance! It must have been a bootleg copy or something. I was so mad! Nancy
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Post by mamaleh on Apr 17, 2017 0:33:23 GMT -5
The "Carousel Waltz" is a lovely piece of music--and very clever. I like how, early on, it mimics the calliope-like sounds one usually hears as the painted horse figures bob up and down on a moving carousel. I like other Rodgers waltzes, too: The "Cinderella Waltz", "Falling in Love with Love", etc. Ellen Speaking of CAROUSEL, there's to be a Broadway revival next year--without Hugh of course. Jessie Mueller will be Julie and Joshua Henry, recently Aaron Burr in the national tour of HAMILTON, will be Billy. The role has definitely passed HJ by. Too bad the elements didn't come together for a film version a decade or so ago. www.broadwayworld.com/article/Breaking-Jesse-Mueller-Joshua-Henry-Rene-Fleming-to-Star-in-CAROUSEL-on-Broadway-20170416Ellen
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