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Post by jo on Jan 6, 2013 21:44:57 GMT -5
Hope I am not misunderstanding - but are you referring to my posts, Foxie? I have actually been selective on posting the negative reviews ( check out the 30% negative criticism on Rotten Tomatoes) -- you might actually faint if I had taken the time to post all of them  We cannot ignore that 30% of critics chose to bash the movie ( and the NYTimes Charles Isherwood actually savaged Hugh's vocal ability  ) and that internet noise is also against the Les Miserables movie musical to some extent. If you ever see the twitter comments of Sasha Stone ( awardsdaily), she says that the negative hype about Les Miserables is "intensifying" and that Hugh's chances may go down with it. Maybe it is all about pushing for Oscars favorites by these bloggers - but we cannot ignore that a certain element (even Stephanie Block, in response to a Michael Cerveris tweet, made fun of the live-singing element that Hugh and company have touted about the movie) are not exactly great fans of the movie . Mais, c'est la vie  We are all hoping for the best -- did I ever misconstrue my feelings about this movie and Hugh's performance to anyone?? Jo |
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Post by wildfire on Jan 6, 2013 22:38:40 GMT -5
The choices for nomination have been made, so any negative hype can't effect that much. I may effect a vote among the five choices , but that will happen later.
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Post by ocjackie on Jan 6, 2013 23:45:44 GMT -5
I'm with Sue!! Reviews are just reviews. Jo, I appreciate all you post and tell us whats going on out there. But we live in our Hugh world and hope for these wonderful things he deserves for all his work (and I do believe he works harder then most). Let's just all hope for the best results possible and that he gets back to Broadway ASAP!!!! :-/ >  > > |
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Post by jo on Jan 7, 2013 0:21:33 GMT -5
Jackie, If you read the Film Experience /Nathaniel Rogers blog, it is not just reviews - he is wailing about the whole negativity pervading the internet against Les Miserables Nathaniel himself is very peeved at what he says is uncalled negativity towards the movie. He has been championing the movie since casting time. And he has Hugh, as of now, as the main challenge to DDL on his predictions section. He is posting about his annoyance of what is driving the seeming hate campaign. But in a few days' time - we will get a feel of how the AMPAS has been feeling about the movie! The screening reports are hopeful, and let's hope the "strong-arm" tactics of some people behind other movies ( that is how Kris Tapley has described the tactics of the Lincoln people -- "strong-arming") will not yield too much negative results about our movie. It is also hopeful that some people think Hugh is quite strong at SAG ( actors guild) and may just be favored for the SAG award -- but also because the actors branch of the AMPAS ( which would likely come from the SAGuild) are the only ones voting for the 5 nominations for acting honors. It is when the final choice is made from the 5 actor-nominees that the whole AMPAS votes. Were it not for Hugh, I would have zero interest in the politicking and strong-arm tactics ( don't forget Weinstein ) that go with the awards-giving. I do not even watch the Oscars if Hugh had no part in it! This movie means a lot to Hugh - hence, my interest and support for it and his Oscar bid! And Les Miserables has been my favorite musical since 1988! That is another thing that gets me - I waited more than 2 decades for this movie If he wins or at least get nominated - I am hoping that he will get better access to great film scripts! PS: I posted the RT Page summary to prove that the general public have much more affection for the movie than the critics  Jo |
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 7, 2013 6:55:05 GMT -5
Jo, I saw it again yesterday (my fifth time) and there was plenty of audience applause at the end--and not just from my little group! I hope the AMPAS takes note of the continuing, widespread affection for this movie.
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Post by jo on Jan 7, 2013 7:17:36 GMT -5
I think that is what is bothering people like N. Rogers of Film Experience - the audiences are touched but the trolls/purists are so bent on creating negative vibes Me - I am anticipating two things at this point: *finally seeing the movie on Jan 16. LOL - I was arguing with the office of the local distributor because he wouldn't or couldn't tell me who have arranged advance screenings ( whom I hope I can contact) - he said it was a state secret ... ...LOL! *our local cable channel says I can get access to telecasts of the Golden Globes/BAFTA/SAG and the OSCARs through a special subscription -- the Oscars can be seen on another channel, but the rest are off-limits if I don't subscribe. I hope the "results" are worth the subscription ...or maybe I will wait for the Ampas nods ;D Yay - only 9 sleeps to go -- excruciating wait :'( Jo |
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Post by birchie on Jan 7, 2013 15:18:00 GMT -5
I think that is what is bothering people like N. Rogers of Film Experience - the audiences are touched but the trolls/purists are so bent on creating negative vibes Me - I am anticipating two things at this point: *finally seeing the movie on Jan 16. LOL - I was arguing with the office of the local distributor because he wouldn't or couldn't tell me who have arranged advance screenings ( whom I hope I can contact) - he said it was a state secret ... ...LOL! *our local cable channel says I can get access to telecasts of the Golden Globes/BAFTA/SAG and the OSCARs through a special subscription -- the Oscars can be seen on another channel, but the rest are off-limits if I don't subscribe. I hope the "results" are worth the subscription ...or maybe I will wait for the Ampas nods ;D Yay - only 9 sleeps to go -- excruciating wait :'( Jo I don't think they can be called "purists" at all! What does that mean anyway??...I know what it literally means, but I don't think it applies to these internet commentators. If someone thinks that there is only one way to do a particular show to the exclusion of all creativity and never taking into account the challenges of converting it into a different form then I'm sorry but that isn't being a purist...that's being stuck in your own narrow way of viewing things. And if the same person goes out of their way to talk negatively about someone's artistic choices, well I think back in the day we would have just called them a trouble maker! It's too bad that the internet is a breeding ground for these trouble makers who try to pass themselves off as totally right by calling themselves purists. They are neither pure nor right. Especially when you come to understand that the actual creators of the thing that they hold so pure were involved in re-creating it for the movie and love how it turned out! So who are the "purists" to hold themselves above the original writers, composers and producers of Les Miserables?? NOTE-before someone jumps in with a "so-and-so sang a g instead of an a in such-and-such song...." That's not the type of commenting that I'm referring to. Plus, I think that's just nitpicking. I've never seen a show on stage where every note was sung perfectly! Unless someone is truly awful all the way through, it shouldn't take away from ones enjoyment of the entire show. Even Russell wasn't bad enough to make the movie a bad experience no matter what people say. Actually he wasn't bad at all, he just wasn't as good as everyone else. So Jo, don't be fooled by what people say. Over all I've come to see that most of the reviews and comments are very positive and the bad ones are so over the top and so far from the reality of what this movie is or how it was done that they now should be considered comical! I think the box office results are speaking much louder than anything these fools might say! I can't wait to see how it does in the UK. (4 days more) Jo, if the local distributor can't give you info on screenings are they willing to take your information so that someone in charge can get in touch with you about how to be able to attend a local screening. I would think being friends with a former revolutionary who has written a book would get you a foot in the door...maybe?  ? On that subscription, how long do you have to sign up for it? Or would you just be signing up for only those broadcasts? If you wait for the nominations & it goes as we all hope, perhaps it would be worth it. Hope the next week flies by for you! Sue |
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Post by ptflynn on Jan 7, 2013 16:00:07 GMT -5
Jo, I saw it again yesterday (my fifth time) and there was plenty of audience applause at the end--and not just from my little group! I hope the AMPAS takes note of the continuing, widespread affection for this movie. Ellen A friend who lives in Los Angeles and works as a Producer (she says EVERYONE in LA is a Producer) saw an advance screening, only for AMPAS voters. She said it was not just for her, ie the Producer's Guild, but included everyone, ie Actors, Directors, etc. She said there was applause after almost every song. Further, she said in all the screenings she has attended in 10+ years, she has NEVER seen such an enthusiastic reaction. Her prediction is for lots of WINS, barring politics of course. As a side note, a business friend called from NYC today. He knows about my fondness for Hugh. He called to tell me he saw Hugh at Whole Foods in Tribeca, and was impressed at what a good looking guy he is. He went ON AND ON. He said "even if the guy wasn't famous, I would have noticed how good looking he is". I told him I think he has a man-crush. |
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Post by JH4HJ on Jan 8, 2013 13:56:37 GMT -5
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Post by jo on Jan 12, 2013 7:12:51 GMT -5
The Golden Globes will be on Sunday ( Jan 13) but it is worrisome because it has the reputation for being the most politics-ridden ( aka unusual tactics by Weinstein). However, in this article for a local Filipino newspaper, there is positive buzz for LES MISERABLES and Hugh and Anne to win. entertainment.inquirer.net/76159/fans-pundits-rooting-for-les-miserablesWhy is this article important to me, at least? Because it is written not only by the regular columnist on Hollywood for our local newspaper --- BUT, Mr. Nepales, a US-based Filipino journalist also happens to be the newly designated ( June 2012) Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association which awards the Golden Globes! I am hoping that he is formalizing his predictions because this could be one way of pre-empting any shenanigans! When he was elected as Board Chairman, there was an article which said the designation of Mr. Nepales was hailed as a breath of fresh air. I hope this means the past politics and shenanigans ( aka Weinstein tactics) can be neutralized, but who knows -- he may be only one in a group which has some barnacled members who like the way things stand! Or will the old guard prevail again Jo |
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Post by jo on Jan 12, 2013 7:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by klenotka on Jan 12, 2013 7:50:39 GMT -5
I think it is a good thing that GG voting was closed before the whole SLP started making its way up so it is possible that it won´t be that successful. I hope.
I am glad that happy got nominated for the Oscar (pretty much what I wanted) and if anybody, except Cooper, who I don´t want to win, will take the Oscar over Hugh, it would be by a respected oponent. In this strong year, there is no shame in it. But I want him to win something for this great role and I hope GG will be his.
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Post by eugenia on Jan 12, 2013 8:28:09 GMT -5
No luck at the AFI. But Hugh was very handsome  |
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 12, 2013 8:40:21 GMT -5
Aside from overdoing the fake tan, he looks pretty darned good. Did he finally catch up on sleep? The goatee sets off his chiseled features nicely.
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Post by jo on Jan 12, 2013 10:54:16 GMT -5
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 12, 2013 15:35:57 GMT -5
That "frontrunner" talk is making me nervous, as though it's being orchestrated to set him up for a fall, thereby making Cooper the "surprise" victor come from behind.
I think I need to take a breath and sip a nice cup of tea. Off to the kitchen.
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Post by jo on Jan 12, 2013 18:35:17 GMT -5
I share your apprehensions, Ellen!
And I am not usually a pessimist.
One site actually calls the Golden Globes voters " persuadable"!
But let's hope the voting is fair and may Hugh's tour de force outshine anyone else in the results! Hope for the best!!
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Post by jo on Jan 12, 2013 18:59:26 GMT -5
In Rope of Silicon, Brad Brevet thinks Hugh is a safer bet than Cooper. He is conducting a poll of key categories to get a feel of the popular sentiment. Hugh is only slightly ahead of Cooper in the poll - - would you like to vote and push that advantage further?www.ropeofsilicon.com/2013-golden-globe-award-winner-predictions/Jo |
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Post by birchie on Jan 13, 2013 9:54:32 GMT -5
I'll be watching the GG tonight just to see Hugh get probably his only, so well deserved award. I'm just sick of how rigged all these awards are. I finally got to see Les Miserables again and it's just a masterpiece. None of the other films come close to the overall greatness of this movie. On a bit of a side note, is anyone else dumbfounded that a 6 year old was nominated as best actress??? From a couple of interview snippets I've seen/read she was basically playing herself and what 6 yr old (she was 5 at the time) knows how to make acting choices?? Just ridiculous! End of rant! Sue |
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Post by meredith on Jan 13, 2013 12:40:28 GMT -5
Two questions:
1) I saw Silver Linings Playbook last night. I've always liked Bradley Cooper well enough. He's pretty good-looking and is appealing in his movies that I've seen in past. But I don't understand how he can be nominated for best actor for this role. I kept waiting for the "big moment" to come along and, well, it just never came. I found it a "good" role and nothing more. Bradley Cooper acting like Bradley Cooper. Even my husband looked at me towards the end and said, "he's nominated for this?". We thought Jennifer Lawrence was much more of a standout performance. Anyone agree or disagree?
2) Is the Oscar voting for the winners completely finished now?
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Post by JH4HJ on Jan 13, 2013 14:09:42 GMT -5
Two questions: 1) I saw Silver Linings Playbook last night . . . Anyone agree or disagree? 2) Is the Oscar voting for the winners completely finished now? I haven't seen that one yet, but I had similar feelings while watching Argo... (and isn't that director nominated too?) It was a good movie, but the thought that "WOW! This film deserves an Oscar!" NEVER entered my head - when the nominations came out I was stunned. RE: Oscar voting - "final" voting is crammed into a 1-2 week window and it goes on until about 10 days before the broadcast. This is the first year for "electronic" voting, and there have been a few SNAFUs already, with nominations. Full article: www.backstage.com/news/academy-awards-2013-dates-and-deadlines-announced/ |
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Post by birchie on Jan 13, 2013 14:18:46 GMT -5
Two questions: 1) I saw Silver Linings Playbook last night. I've always liked Bradley Cooper well enough. He's pretty good-looking and is appealing in his movies that I've seen in past. But I don't understand how he can be nominated for best actor for this role. I kept waiting for the "big moment" to come along and, well, it just never came. I found it a "good" role and nothing more. Bradley Cooper acting like Bradley Cooper. Even my husband looked at me towards the end and said, "he's nominated for this?". We thought Jennifer Lawrence was much more of a standout performance. Anyone agree or disagree? 2) Is the Oscar voting for the winners completely finished now? I agree! I just saw it today and I don't know how it got to be "one of the best movies of the year"?? Some good performances with Jennifer Lawrence definitely worthy of a nomination, but no where near the caliber of Les Miserable. I don't think Bradley Cooper should have been nominated for best actor either. Les Miserables is the only one of the contenders that I will actually buy when the BluRay/DVD is released. The only other one that I may see a second time is Argo, on my TV, but I don't like it enough to buy it. The rest were not above average enough for me to want to see them again. I have a sinking feeling that the best actual performance & the best actual movie won't mean much this year as far as awards go. I hope I'm proven wrong. Sue |
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Post by JH4HJ on Jan 13, 2013 14:33:06 GMT -5
Other than Les Mis, the only other movie that thrilled me this year was Life of Pi. It's an amazing book and I thought it would be very difficult to film, but they made quite a good movie of it. The other one I was really looking forward to was The Hobbit, because I loved the Rings trilogy. The best comment I've heard on that one is it's "punishment for loving Lord of The Rings." Sad to say, I agree. They should have just made A (one) movie. If The Hobbit deserves *three* films, then LOTR should have been made into a DOZEN movies. (greedy, Greedy, GREEDY!)
...and there are too many Best Picture nominations. If they're going to pick so many films there should be two different categories - Drama and Comedy/Musical (?) like some other awards do.
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Post by jo on Jan 13, 2013 17:11:11 GMT -5
The irony is that Les Miserables falls squarely into both categories -- while the format is that of a musical, it is dramatic in character!
Jo
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 13, 2013 17:43:45 GMT -5
Hugh will be walking the red carpet at the Golden Globes tonight. E News' Giuliana said he'd be interviewed shortly after 6 p.m. ET.
Tuning in!
Ellen
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