Post by njr on May 30, 2018 8:56:08 GMT -5
Hugh Jackman On Turning 50 In Hollywood: “The First 10 Years Felt Stilted”
RICHARD CLUNE29 MAY 2018
As Hugh Jackman gears up for his 50th birthday, we reflect on the career of one of Australia’s greatest actors.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
At a time devoid of decency it feels right to be talking to Hugh Jackman. Saddled to a heightened ability to entertain and emote - morality, propriety, and civility have been the actor's stock-in-trade since first bearing his Hollywood claws some 20 years ago.
And it feels appropriate to be talking to Jackman, in New York, the morning after a screening of Shame, a powerful if sometimes forgotten '80s Australian film starring his wife, Deborra-lee Furness. Because it's a feature that today drips with poignancy after what's transpired the past eight months - 2017 to forever be the year Hollywood's most nefarious networks came to be exposed; a wealth of women and men finding collective strength and voice to expose and rally against the abuses and predatory behaviours that had been allowed to infest to a point of acceptance.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Shame, with Furness out front as a stern lawyer-cum-leather-clad biker, is a complex revenge tale set in a remote West Australian town enveloped by a casual and accepted rape culture. It's a tale of toxicity and the arduousness of working through blame, shame and bringing perpetrators of heinous sexual assault to rights.
"Oh my God, it was just incredibly powerful," says Jackman of the screening, which was shown as part of the inaugural Australian International Screen Forum at the Lincoln Center. "And you just think, 'How relevant is this movie right now? How far ahead of its time was it?' This is a film from 30 years ago - and there's just not that many like it handling these issues, these very complex issues. That's what I like in this film - there are some great scenes about how it's not simple issue at all.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Jackman is direct when discussing all that's come to frame his industry of late. The documented actions of too many are abhorrent, abuses of power "in any way, not just in terms of sexist and sexual conduct, but across the board, absolutely disgusting.
"Making it as an actor is bloody hard - I know that. I remember it seemed almost impossible at times, you think it's never going to happen. So to then add all this to it for someone is unthinkable and disgusting. And for my money, there should never, ever be an audition again without a third person present, there should never be a meeting in a hotel room. You can call it a hotel room, but essentially it's a bedroom, right? So why would you ever need to have a meeting there?"
Looking past this pit of shit dug by some of Hollywood's most powerful players, Jackman eyes a positivity away from the various proceedings - a wish to move forward and address, at the least, a need for greater numbers of women to be seen and heard.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
"What's been great in all of this is that it's morphed into genuine discussion about equality in the workplace. I just read yesterday that only seven per cent of directors are female. There's literally no reason for that - that's genuinely wrong.
"And so maybe it's back to school, or how we frame this issue for a younger girl, like my daughter, and make it feel like anything's possible. So in many ways, it feels like there's a hopeful feeling that this could be a genuine change for the better."
While Jackman's sense of decency has him sailing well beyond the perpetrators and the accused, there remains some frayed, entangled threads. Some of those central to allegations of rape, misconduct and exploitation are also those he has held as contemporaries, employers, friends. He worked for Harvey Weinstein on 2001's Kate and Leopold and again in 2011 comedy Butter. He is close to X-Men's Bryan Singer and shot for Woody Allen in 2006's Scoop.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
"Yeah, it's very awkward. But we all know that sometimes in our own lives we're shocked to hear things. And there's been some of that with people I've worked with.
"It's difficult, it's difficult to know how to handle it when you're friends and you spend a lot of time with them. And you don't want to do the cowardly thing and just dump them – I'd prefer to say something to them, even if it's pretty damn uncomfortable."
Alongside this push for change and the spotlight to continue its illumination of Hollywood's shadows sits the notion of forgiveness - specifically, the argument about whether a point is reached when those currently exiled may return and create.
It's a concept that sits on the sidelines as we continue to move through rejection and erasure - Kevin Spacey's speedy removal from last year's All The Money in the World and Allen's funding difficulties are two examples.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Still, as a man of confirmed Christian values, the far-reaching loops of forgiveness must surely touch and occasionally confound Jackman "Philosophically, fundamentally, I believe in redemption and forgiveness - yes.
"It's everything I was brought up to believe. And I feel that there has to be that option for everyone... much of what our legal system and our philosophy as a society is based on is this idea of second chances. I keep hearing these words I grew up with in the church, 'don't be so quick to judge others until you feel you're completely spotless yourself'."
Jackman is spotless - but exploring forgiveness opens the prospect of whether he would work with the likes of, say, Allen again? "It's hypothetical and I don't really know the answer. I'd have to give it a lot more thought... I made the decision to work with him quicker and easier than I would make it now, that's for sure; I would have to think about it more now, it was an easier decision to come to back
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Clearly not something he would take lightly, he adds, "I would never, ever, base a decision on a newspaper report or hearsay or whatever. I would need to know the full facts, you know?"
As a parent to Ava, 12, and Oscar, 18, 2017 and the allegations levelled at some of those close has also meant a chain of honest conversations with his children. He says they've spoken a lot about what's been acknowledged and offered up in the media. "Because, again, this is a great teaching moment for boys, girls, men and women – for everyone. It's a chance to rewrite the book on how we handle gender and many, many things. This is a chance to change things.
"Every parent worries about their kids and how they handle themselves and their confidence in standing up for themselves in certain situations. Just as you also think about how they treat people."
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Jackman goes on to detail a recent social media post Ava made on a private account. "She said that we talk so much about teaching girls how not to get raped -; but why don't we teach boys not to rape? And I tell you, I was just so proud of her."
Our interview was never slated to solely exhume and reexamine Hollywood's plight and the ongoing fallout surrounding Weinstein et al. Because it's 2018 and, as Jackman says, there's positivity peeking through. And because it's 2018 and there are milestones to celebrate - for Jackman and GQ Australia.
While this humble men's title clocks two decades, Jackman will tackle 50 years in the coming months. While he hasn't given much thought to the half-ton, he's sure he'll raise the bat at a party organised by Furness.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
"Mate she's the one - Deb really doesn't need much of an excuse to celebrate, that's her kind of philosophy for every single day. So when her husband turns 50, she wants to go big, she doesn't listen when I say, 'I just want some small thing', she's like, 'Yeah right - whatever'. So there'll be a party here and I won't be able to stop Deb from making it pretty amazing and big with twice as many people as I'll want."
Jackman's ultimate birthday desire is to throw on some Lycra. "I'm keen to get on the bike with some mates later this year and do a bicycle tour of France or Italy. As it is there's a group of us from high school getting together and doing a bit of a trip around the States, which is like what we did when we hit 40."
That a star of his stature and worth remains tight with those he rubbed blazers with at Sydney's Knox Grammar (Jackman was school captain in 1986) speaks of the way he goes about things, about his code - focused, passionate, accessible, giving.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
Speak to Jackman and he'll generally turn the conversation away from himself. He's not attempting to hide or deflect - he's just interested and sincere in wanting to know more about those sat opposite.
How many kids? How old? Where are you originally from? How's the publishing industry holding up? Nice shoes - where are they from? Let's just take some time to talk about the cricket first. He'll remind you that he studied communications and wanted to be a journalist, before a rethink and a decision to turn down Neighbours for Perth and the West Australian Academy of Performing Arts.
He landed on the small screen on graduation - it was in only his second gig, a minor role in the ABC's Corelli, in 1995, where he met and fell for Furness.
Blue Heelers, Halifax f.p and Snowy River: The McGregeor Saga were further small-screen outings - and if you haven't caught his hosting of Foxtel's In Fashion alongside Rove McManus, then please do.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
On the large screen he went back to back with the dusty Paperback Hero and urban Erskineville Kings - and then headed for the West End and an Olivier award nomination as Curly in Oklahoma!
2001 was the first time GQ featured the lithe actor with Clint Eastwood's jaw and rugged good looks - a year before he'd scored a role as Logan/Wolverine on X-Men and a fitting debut line for a proud Aussie bloke: "I'll have a beer".
'Move over Mel Gibson, Hollywood has a new Australian heartthrob' were the words we used to highlight Jackman back then - in an issue fronted by the Ian Thorpe.
Jackman would end up spending 17 years with his eyebrows cocked as the mutant with anger problems and adamantium claws – the longest run at a celluloid superhero in history (Adam West’s Batman only flew for three seasons; Robert Downey Jnr's Ironman debuted in 2008).
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
The anger and the menace of Wolverine was always at odds with Jackman personally - but he mined enough pain to inject into each beastly turn and ultimately ride the $6.4bn X-Men films have so far made.
Wolverine, who scored three standalone features, was always the Jackman kids' college fund, and why not? It gave the Aussie incredible exposure and changed things overnight.
"My wife is unbelievably prescient with these things - she gets a sense of what's happening way before I do. On that opening weekend, we stood on a stoop on a Saturday night with me as Wolverine, and she just said, 'Everything's different from here'. I'm like, 'C'mon it's just one film Deb'. She wasn't having it. 'No, I can feel it. It’s changed. It's all going to change from here.'"
Within a day, paparazzi were capturing Jackman's daily moves and he began to field peculiar interactions on the street.
"I remember this guy came up to me with his mate, and goes, 'Oh, Wolverine'. And his mate goes, 'It's not Wolverine - look how tall he is'. He goes, 'It is'. And they started having this full-on argument three feet from my face. I actually settled it by pulling out my driver's licence and showing them. And instead of them asking for an autograph or whatever, the guy who lost was like, 'Fuck that. Damn it'. And then they walked off."
X-Men also delivered the X-Factor. Scripts landed, and a lot of them. Ultimately, his blockbuster billing set in play an ability to push far further than the comic book realisation - everything from singing in Cantonese (Snow Flower and the Secret Fan)
to hosting the Oscars, to fighting robots (Real Steel) and take the piss out of himself - and quite often his homeland – on Saturday Night Live.
An Oscar nomination and Golden Globe Award as best actor in a comedy or musical came for Les Miserables, an Emmy for his hosting of the Tony Awards, with a Tony Award attached to his portrayal of Peter Allen in The Boy From Oz.
That Allen passed away at 48 is not lost on Jackman – though he's firm in stating he's not one to look back and reflect, even in this, his 50th year.
"It's just not my thing. I'm someone who tries really hard to look forward - never back. I prefer to be curious about what it is you're creating than looking back. I know it sounds like a bumper sticker, but that's genuinely how I feel – I'm yet to hit the good or bad versions of a mid-life crisis so the number for me doesn't make me at all reflective. In fact, the people I admire the most are older, as they seem to get more curious. That's the secret to feeling young."
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
He cites Pat Schoenfeld, the 86-year-old Broadway doyenne and theatre producer. "She does pottery every single day. She plays tennis three times a week. She invites me to every single opening. She goes to the theatre two or three times a week, museums and, you know, I think particularly in New York, no one I've ever met talks of retirement. Everyone's talking about what it is you're doing, it's this sense that you're only as good as what you're doing right now - and philosophically, I'm a believer that you're either growing or shrinking in life."
Right now, he's staring at an extended break with nothing planned for the rest of the year. He may shoot a film, he may not.
"I'm sure Deb will have something to say about that - 'ah, when are you going back to work?' – but this is the first time in my life that I don't know what's next and that's incredibly exciting."
He reads and dances and sings everyday. He suggests another one-man theatre show akin to 2011's Back on Broadway could be in the offing, so too a stage production of last year's movie The Greatest Showman.
"That's been one of those great surprises," he says of the musical piece. "It was a risk for the studio to take. And it's always nerve-racking when your face is on a poster that says 'The Greatest Showman' because if you fuck it up you can see the first line of every review. I was also fully aware that if I got it wrong, the chances of me doing another musical in the lead were greatly diminished. And I would love to be able to, in my lifetime, do at least three or four more. Yeah, I would love to. So with Les Mis and Showman, it keeps that on track." Pushed to choose a career highlight, Jackman doesn't put forward his Oscar-nominated turn as Jean Valjean in the theatrical re-imagining of Victor Hugo's work. Instead, he opts for Allen and The Boy From Oz.
"Being nominated for an Oscar was incredible, but the year I had here doing Oz was a huge turning point. Not just career wise, but how I felt. It was a turning point in following and trusting my instincts, because I'd been offered that originally and turned it down. I thought it wasn't a great idea at the time - because then I wasn't being seen for movies, I was a 'musical theatre guy'."
Jackman then caught Todd McKenney as Allen as it played to sold-out theatres across Australia.
"It was an incredible performance by Todd and I was sick to my stomach the whole time 'cause I was like, 'Damn, that was a big mistake. Damn, I should have trusted my gut, I should have trusted my gut.' So when they rang me two or three years later and were like, 'Hey, Hugh, how are you? We were thinking...' I said, 'Yes. Yep, I’m in'. And they were like, 'Oh, we're going to Broadway. 'I know, I'm in.' I said yes immediately.
"So I was in New York on stage as Peter Allen, every night, ad-libbing, 'cause 10 minutes of it was always ad-libbed, I was learning and it was just incredible. When Broadway embraces something, it's a pretty amazing experience - you're living in this city and doing this great show and a bunch of stuff came from it too, you know, [Steven] Spielberg ended up asking me to do the Oscars."
In acting, Jackman’s business, there are many well-worn adages. 'You're only as good as your last performance'; 'Movies will make you famous, television will make you rich, theatre will make you good'; 'Acting takes a lifetime to perfect'.
With the big 5-0 blinking in the distance, it's the last that sticks – given, by its reckoning, Jackman should be about halfway there now.
PHOTOGRAPHER: BEN WATTS
"To be completely honest, I'm enjoying acting more now than ever before. Because I feel excited about it. I feel at home on a stage and comfortable on film - which has taken a while to get to. I can broadly say the first 10 years on film felt stilted. I was sometimes a little nervous and it stopped my enjoyment of it all. So it's taken me a little while to feel comfortable - like 10 years - but I do now and I'm lucky and blessed to have had the chances I've had. Some people bomb out early - I had a few lucky turns that gave me more chances. I'm lucky, you know. I am. I really am.
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This article was originally published in the June/July 2018 issue of GQ Australia. You can purchase a copy of the issue here, until sold out.