Wolverine 3

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variety.com/2013/film/news/after-prisoners-should-hugh-jackman-retire-from-wolverine-1200647305/#respond

[jo]

A brief interview with Simon Kinberg during the press session for APOCALYPSE discloses a few details but not much more --

collider.com/wolverine-3-filming-rated-r/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social

Wolverine 3 Has Started Filming; Simon Kinberg Confirms R-Rating, Says It’s a Violent, “Different Wolverine”

by Adam Chitwood  7 hours ago




While the superhero genre is all the rage at the moment, there’s one actor in particular who’s been doing this for years, and that’s Hugh Jackman. The Australian performer was a newcomer when he got the call as a last-minute replacement for Dougray Scott on Bryan Singer’s groundbreaking 2000 film X-Men, and he’s since solidified himself as the iconic Wolverine.


However, the 47-year-old is now ready to hang up the claws for good as the X-Men franchise continues barreling forward, but not before one last go-around as the character in Wolverine 3. Jackman spent plenty of care and time ensuring that this last Wolverine movie was up to snuff, bringing The Wolverine helmer James Mangold back to direct, and while folks are mighty excited to see how Jackman wraps this role up, we just learned some very exciting news: Wolverine 3 has already begun filming!
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Image via 20th Century Fox

Collider’s own Steve Weintraub caught up with producer Simon Kinberg at the press day for X-Men: Apocalypse in London, and Kinberg revealed that Wolverine 3 has indeed already begun filming, going on to tease that we’re in for quite a treat:


“It’s a very radical, bold, different Wolverine than you’ve ever seen in any of these movies.”

While Kinberg wouldn’t go so far as confirming that Patrick Stewart is co-starring in the movie, he did confirm that it will be R-rated and teased the setting and tone:


“I’m not sure what I’m allowed to say about that. I will agree with you that Patrick Stewart was rumored to be a part of that film. It takes place in the future, and as you and others have reported, it is an R-rated movie. It’s violent, it’s kind of like a western in its tone. It’s just a very cool, different film.”
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Image via 20th Century Fox


We heard rumors earlier this year that 20th Century Fox was considering making Wolverine 3 rated R, no doubt emboldened by the immense success of Deadpool even though this R-rated Wolverine was in the works long before that film was released, and now it appears that the picture is indeed envisioned as a fully R-rated superhero movie. That’s kind of huge. Mangold shot an R-rated version of The Wolverine but also shot alternate takes to make sure they had the option of going PG-13 if they wanted to—which they did. But with Wolverine 3, the intention from the get-go is R-rated, so we’ll be getting the full, unfiltered creative vision when the finished film hits theaters.

Moreover, Kinberg also reveals the picture takes place in the future. While that seems like an obvious bit of information, the new post-Days of Future Past timeline has left much up in the air, so it’ll be interesting to see just exactly how far into the future Wolverine 3 takes place.

Fox will no doubt cast a new Wolverine somewhere down the line, as this is still a multi-billion dollar franchise after all, but boy is it going to be hard to fill Jackman’s shoes. At least we can rest assured that the actor is putting everything he’s got into making sure that his final outing as the character will be as iconic as his performance.

The untitled Wolverine film also stars Boyd Holbrook as the principal villain, as well as Richard E. Grant, Stephen Merchant, and Eriq Lasalle and opens in theaters on March 3, 2017. Look for much more from Steve’s X-Men: Apocalypse interviews on Collider soon.

[jo]

May 4, 2016 21:22:13 GMT -5 jo said:

Eriq La Salle Verified account  ‏@eriqlasalle23 · 12m12 minutes ago

Time 2 mix it up, get back in front of the camera. Shooting WOLVERINE w/@realhughjackman @sirpatstew. Great 1st day.

That confirms the casting of Patrick Stewart!

If filmsites have been more comprehensive in their coverage, they would have known beforehand that Patrick Stewart is indeed part of WOLVERINE 3!


Jo

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The comments from Kinberg re the western tone, the violence, and the futuristic setting seem to further indicate that WOVLERINE 3 might be based on OLD MAN LOGAN --



Although I think the fantasy aspect might be toned down.


Jo

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A tweet from Collider's Steven Weintraub --

Steven Weintraub Verified account  ‏@colliderfrosty · 15m15 minutes ago

I can confirm with absolute certainty @sirpatstew is in @realhughjackman's final WOLVERINE movie which is currently filming.

[jo]

Two interesting entries under FULL CAST AND CREW for WOLVERINE 3 (aka UNTITLED WOLVERINE SEQUEL) on IMDB --


www.imdb.com/title/tt3315342/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Daniel Stevens ... stunt double: Hugh Jackman

He was also the stunt double for Hugh in THE WOLVERINE.

Ryan Schaetzle ... location scout: Georgia

Georgia as in the filming locale for PRISONERS? I thought they were only filming in New Orleans and in New Mexico?

[jo]

The expected R rating has of course generated very positive reactions in general.

How is this for fanboy humor, courtesy of the SuperHeroHype forum

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Default Re: Wolverine 3 - news & discussion

Originally Posted by auditor View Post

So it is officially rated r. Lets hope it has nothing to do with Hugh Jackman being naked in every x-men movie he's done so far

Speak for yourself

<giggle*> <giggle*>

[jo]

Hugh Jackman ‏@realhughjackman · 2h2 hours ago

TUESDAY.

This further confirms that he is wearing a full beard ( not mutton chops) as Wolverine in the finale movie?

But he looks awfully young to be OLdManLogan


Jo

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More casting calls --

www.onlocationvacations.com/2016/05/12/wolverine-3-filming-in-new-orleans/

Central Casting Louisiana has posted several casting calls for Juarez, Wolverine 3’s working title, including one today that is looking for mourners.



**Mourners **Wednesday 5/25***Covington Area***
Mourners: Looking for men and women of all ages who appear to be Hispanic, to portray mourners at a funeral. This films Wednesday, May 25th in the Covington Area and requires a wardrobe fitting on Tuesday, May 17th in New Orleans. Must be able to do BOTH fitting & filming.
If you are available, please send current photo(s), name & phone number to [e-mail] and put “MOURNER” in the subject line.

[jo]

Active producer Hutch Parker of the Wolverine 3 film project ( he said he came from Wolverine 3 and was just on loan for the APOCALYPSE premiere) has confirmed to Collider's S. Weintraub that Patrick Stewart is definitely part of WOLVERINE 3 --

collider.com/wolverine-3-patrick-stewart-hutch-parker-interview/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social

He talks about Patrick and Wolverine 3 towards the end of the video.


Jo

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Patrick Stewart
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Worst kept secret. #ProfessorX #Wolverine3 pic.twitter.com/zXpmW4gRjD

10:34 PM - 14 May 2016

[jo]

It's exhilarating that there's much excitement about Hugh's final Wolverine film - on social media, on message boards, on filmsites , and even some of the Apocalypse interviews are being hijacked to respond to questions about WOLVERINE 3.

One fan put this poster together ?

[jo]

More fan art for Wolverine 3 --

[jo]

Taken in NYC for the weekend, after about 2 weeks of New Orleans filming -- is this how Wolverine will look like ( facial hair) ?

[jo]

I found this article posted on IMDB. The author challenges the artistic decision to create a movie with a projected "R" rating and calls that decision a mistake.

www.grunge.com/14347/r-rated-wolverine-movie-mistake/

Why an R-rated Wolverine movie is a mistake

by Brian P. Rubin


When Deadpool hit theaters in February 2016 on the strength of a $58 million budget, no one could've predicted that the R-rated super-satire would take home a box office haul of $760.3 million. That's totally bananas, and really great for fans of the character and his unique brand of shock and schlock. But a few months later, film producer Simon Kinberg announced that 20th Century Fox gave the greenlight to an R-Rated Wolverine sequel, set to debut in 2017. Considering both movies take place in Fox's X-Men cinematic universe, it makes sense that the studio would try to replicate Deadpool's success in any way it can. But let's just get one thing straight: this is probably not the way to do that.



Deadpool's success


So why was Deadpool such a surprise hit? There's no denying that its R-rating certainly had something to with it. Deadpool is a comic book character who maims and kills his opponents, and does so with gusto. Not only that, but he has a penchant for toilet language, albeit his cuss-words are usually blanked out in his word balloons, letting the readers fill in the mental gaps. Allowing him to go hog-wild on the big screen makes sense, because it gets at the character's core. But Deadpool's victory at the movie theater has more to do with a very funny script and equally funny performances out of its actors, led by Ryan Reynolds. It's true that if Deadpool had been softened to a PG-13 rating, it wouldn't have been as good. But the talented, funny, and creative people making the movie would still have been there to make things work within the confines of its tamer rating.




Why Wolverine?


So why apply the R-rated recipe to Wolverine, a character who's been popular since the 1970s? He's appeared in violent comics as well as children's cartoons. He's been an X-Man as well as an Avenger. The guy is versatile, right? That kind of track record means he can work in just about any context. You'd think, then, that his adaptability—and the violence inherent to his signature knifey hands—would make an R-rating a perfect fit. And it might! There's no real reason that an R-rated movie starring Wolverine should fail. Except…




It narrows your audience


Slapping an R-rating on a movie isn't a recipe for success. In fact, the opposite has usually proven to be true. There's a reason that Deadpool made headlines by being one of the few superhero movies to be released with the rating. Time and again, movies with PG-13 ratings or lower have routinely made more money than those that are rated R, simply because more people are able to see them. Deadpool is an outlier, but again, its success can be traced to the people who made it, not the fact that people's heads exploded and Deadpool had a major potty mouth (though, yeah, those aspects were pretty cool).





It misses the point


Wolverine has had two solo movies. The first one, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, is known for having some pretty cool bits and pieces that show off the character's journey over the years. It is also deeply flawed in many ways, like having a ridiculous plot and featuring adaptations of popular comic characters that range from forgettable to awful. In short, that movie kind of sucks. And it doesn't suck because it wasn't rated R. It sucks because it sucks.



It won't add anything


There will likely be some very cool scenes in the new Wolverine flick, where the Canucklehead is running amok, stabbing dudes left and right, and just generally causing mayhem wherever he goes. He'll probably also drop a few F-bombs, and hey! Maybe they'll show some naked people. That's what you can do with an R-rating! But will any of that actually make the movie any good? Or will it give the filmmakers license to once again ignore having a good story and focus on violence and shock? If you need proof that there's no need for an R-rating to make Wolverine completely awesome, direct your eyes to the clip from X2: X-Men United above. There's not a single drop of blood, but at no point do you doubt that Wolverine is being absolutely deadly and amazing.



But maybe...


Producer Simon Kinberg gave Collider a bit of info about the new
film, saying, "It's a very radical, bold, different Wolverine than you've ever seen in any of these movies," and that "it is an R-rated movie. It's violent, it's kind of like a western in its tone. It's just a very cool, different film."

That all sounds fine. Maybe Kinberg and director James Mangold will exercise restraint and ensure that the R-rating is only there to preserve essential story elements and sequences. Maybe the third movie in the Wolverine franchise will usher in a new dawn of thoughtful, intense action-superhero movies that will inspire generations of filmmakers to push the boundaries of what's come before.

Or maybe it'll just show Wolverine stabbing lots of guys until their intestines fall out and then he has graphic sex with a hot lady. That might be good too, or something.

I will also post my replies to that article which I posted on the IMDB Board.

[jo]

Here are my thoughts on the article --

Maybe Kinberg and director James Mangold will exercise restraint and ensure that the R-rating is only there to preserve essential story elements and sequences. Maybe the third movie in the Wolverine franchise will usher in a new dawn of thoughtful, intense action-superhero movies that will inspire generations of filmmakers to push the boundaries of what's come before.

Maybe the author should have stopped at that!



And not add this rather facetious conclusion --

Or maybe it'll just show Wolverine stabbing lots of guys until their intestines fall out and then he has graphic sex with a hot lady. That might be good too, or something.

As he said earlier about what an "R" rating could mean --

Or will it give the filmmakers license to once again ignore having a good story and focus on violence and shock?

That is a farfetched assumption. The project development took some time because they wanted an excellent script. Hugh and James Mangold have previously worked together in The Wolverine and save for the last act, that movie showed strong character and plot development. If you had seen the Director's Cut, which would probably raise the rating to "R" for the movie, there is consensus that it showed a more compelling movie.

Also, the projected R rating was not a consequence of the success of Deadpool. As Singer earlier confirmed, what he knew was that it was always the intention to make a movie that would likely get an R rating, not for the sake of the rating itself, but delving deeper into the many Wolverine sagas might involve stronger action scenes, stronger language, and maybe other more adult material. Remember how an influx of response texts were sent to Hugh when he asked fans to let him know what they would like to see in his final portrayal of Wolverine? Who are we to say that he and James Mangold were not inspired by the fan feedback when they were getting involved in outlining the plot and character development for this movie?

I would not prejudge the movie, until we finally see it. I am hoping that our curiousity would be partly satisfied if and when they share a detailed synopsis of the storyline and maybe give us a peek into the different characters. The article's author simply made some presumptuous assumptions, I am afraid.

Btw, I could be wrong, but I am not sure if Simon Kinberg is as intimately involved in the production as much as Hutch Parker ( who confirmed during the Apocalypse premiere that "he was just there on loan from the Wolverine 3 filming") and Lauren Shuler Donner, both of whose production companies are listed as producers. True, Kinberg talked about the overall tone ( "like a western, violent, radical"), but he did not really share a lot of details and he is not involved in the scripwriting ( as he was in APOCALYPSE). Many fans assume that it sounds like a an adaptation of OldManLogan... It seems Kinberg is more involved in the creative process and release of Apocalypse as well as forward planning the next steps in the franchise.


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As for narrowing the audience, as presumed by the article's author --

Who are we to say that it could not work either way? The cinema may lose the younger demos, but if the movie is well-made and is critically well-received, how do we know that it cannot attract more mature audiences who generally do not care for comic-book movies?

Who are we to say that repeat patronage (from fans who can see it) may not be heightened because it is a well-crafted and well-acted movie?

Who are we to say that Hugh's female fanbase ( especially those who are not keen about his Wolverine movies) may not find it more interesting to watch and/or re-watch because it is a film for more sophisticated audiences, with a more compelling storyline and character portrayals?

Who are we to say that real fans will not watch it several times more than they would watch PG-13 stuff to send the studio the message that in some cases, if the occasion calls for it, more mature material would be more than welcome?


As one fan teased the father of a 5-year old who was bewailing that he cannot take his son to the movie : "I promise to see it enough times to make up for your son missing the movie "

Or, the 5-year old will eventually grow up...and he can always watch the video(BluRay/DVD) at some point when his parents deem it already age-appropriate for him?


Most importantly, maybe a major consideration for Hugh Jackman and James Mangold is to create a finale movie that they can be very proud of, artistically-speaking! Not all movies are meant simply to be tentpoles! Even Fox supports more artistic endeavors if called for!




Jo

[jo]

Posted by Hugh - is that his trailer ?




LOL - is this close to how he will look in Wolverine 3?

[jo]

New casting calls - for a fun casino scene.

www.projectcasting.com/casting-calls-acting-auditions/wolverine-3-new-orleans-casting-call-casino-scene

Wolverine 3 is now casting extras for a casino scene in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Hugh Jackman’s latest movie Wolverine 3 is now casting actors, models, and talent to work on a really fun casino scene filming in New Orleans, Louisiana. Producers are looking for men and women who appear to be in their 20’s to 60’s to film a really fun casino scene. Filming will take place starting June 1st through June 3rd in New Orleans. Talents will be required to attend a wardrobe fitting in NOLA either on Thursday, May 19th Friday, May 20th or Monday, May 23rd.

[jo]

LOL- it is obvious I don't read the comics -- I just found out there were other stories of OLDMANLOGAN, other than the previous upload I have posted here.



Again, a lot of fantasy ( including tie-ups with Avengers and other characters in the Marvel universe) -- but there are some familiar characters ( Emma Frost, a young Jean Grey, other mutants, etc) and even a short overlap with Apocalypse.

I wonder how the scriptwriters, James Mangold, and Hugh are sorting all these out, to come up with a cinematic OldManLogan journey?

Maybe they will simply concentrate on how Logan/Wolverine had to cope in the far future?


PS: I am checking out other uploads - maybe there were other stories of the comicbook OldManLogan to tell


Jo

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This is terribly confusing! It seems that the comic series OLDMANLOGAN did not really stop after The Death of Wolverine.

In 2015, there was another series which I posted in the previous post.

In 2016, they released another series --





No wonder it was taking Hugh and James M and the scriptwriters a very long time to select what they would eventually adapt as the film version of Wolverine in the future ( known as OldManLogan)


Jo

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I'm quite certain that they didn't use this most recent Old Man Logan story line in their script. It's only started this year after all. Last year's story - a limited series - was a part of the "Secret Wars" crossover, and the result of those events was that Logan of the future mistakenly ended up in the "present day" Marvel universe. So now he has his own title, and he's a part of an X-Men team as depicted in the Extraordinary X-Men comic. In that team, incidentally, there is also a very young Jean Grey, who has travelled FORWARD in time from the original comic team of the 1960s. The two of them have an interesting relationship, in that Logan remembers her future self and their special connection. Anyway. It's amusing that so many people think the movies have continuity issues, when the comics are so much worse.

Anyway, given that the current script was nearly done before this latest comic series even began, there's very little chance these recent comic stories have anything to do with the film. To be honest, I'm not even sure how much the original Old Man Logan story line will be followed.

[jo]

Anyway. It's amusing that so many people think the movies have continuity issues, when the comics are so much worse.

LOL! Fanboys insist on perfect continuity from movie to movie to movie


It is likely that WOLVERINE 3 is going to be a loose adaptation, with some characters likely borrowed, and the crossover stories and fantasy elements likely dropped. Even THE WOLVERINE was such -- I did get hold of the Japanese saga comic book compilation and what we actually saw in the movie was somewhat different.

While filming, there might be occasional changes to the working script, hence the scriptwriters ( including James Mangold who also writes) may have to tinker with the original one occasionally. And in post-production, while editing, further tinkering can happen that may change the original assembly of usable filmed scenes...and of course full reshoots or simply pick-up shots can also happen. Hence the director's role is never finished until the film is almost ready for release. Remember how Les Miserables finally found its final version?

Jo

[jo]

Another fan creation of how OldManLogan might look -- it seems many are speculating that the theme of WOLVERINE 3 is going to be based on that time in Logan's life ?





Some fans have already noted that Hugh is wearing short head hair in his off-set photos ( the photo with makeup artists, the "Tuesday" photo, the "Gene" photo, and even those taken by the paps in the past weekend).

Jo

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www.idigitaltimes.com/x-men-apocalypse-post-credits-scenespoiler-crashes-party-534734

X-Men: Apocalypse may have the most characters we’ve ever seen in a standalone X-Men movie, but there’s one who we won’t meet until the post-credits scene: Mister Sinister. Courtesy of Bleeding Cool, here’s the play-by-play of Mister Sinister’s introduction:

“We see a besuited man walking through the remains of the Weapon X clean-up programme, removing the blood, bodies and bullets. And retrieving vials of Wolverine’s blood labelled Weapon X. And placing them into his briefcase which contains other vials of differing colours. Slamming shut, it is labelled ESSEX CORP.”

Nathaniel Essex, aka Mister Sinister, is a genius scientist obsessed with the Summers genetic line. Mister Sinister is responsible for the birth of Nathan Summers (aka Cable). He created a clone of Jean Grey (aka Madelyne Pryor) to breed with Scott Summers (aka Cyclops). Apocalypse and Sinister are allies at first, but it's later revealed Mister Sinister actually created Cable to make a mutant powerful enough to destroy him.

Using his celestial technology, Apocalypse aided Essex’s transformation into Mr. Sinister. The human mutate has a variety of powers, including telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, shapeshifting and molecular regeneration.

Simon Kinberg recently spoke to Collider about how the Apocalypse after-credits scene will tie into the whole X-Men franchise, and it’s definitely a tease for what’s to come in Hugh Jackman’s final run with the claws in Wolverine 3 .

“It’s a nod toward potentially a lot of different movies. I mean certainly the Wolverine movie is related to what happens at the end of it, but there’s also another character that’s introduced, at least in name, in the tag and he could show up in any host of different X-Men films. Maybe a Gambit movie, maybe another X-Men movie.”

We’re going to witness the Weapon X version of Wolverine straight from Marvel Comics Presents. Hugh Jackman has been captured by Stryker in the Weapon X facility, and according to Bleeding Cool’s Rich Johnston, he’s going to be sporting his traditional get up; helmet, wires and all. The Weapon X storyline, combined with this intriguing post-credits scene also hints at something bigger: X-23.

Also known as Laura Kinney, X-23 is a clone created using a partial genetic sample of Weapon X’s DNA. Mister Sinister didn't create her, but this could explain how Dr. Martin Sutter get's ahold of Weapon X's DNA. If Kinberg's statements are true, we'll be seeing Sinister's appearance in Wolverine 3. It may be a stretch, but considering Jackman's on his way out, it'd also be a great time for X-23's official introduction into the franchise. Someone has to take the reins as the new Wolverine.

Like Kinberg said, there’s a place for Mister Sinister in nearly all upcoming X-Men films including Gambit, New Mutants, X-Force, and the next X-Men movie. Wolverine 3 is next in the X-Men lineup after Apocalypse hits theaters May 27.

I am not familiar with all XMEN characters but I have read about the excitement among some fans on the possibility of Mr. Sinister as one of the main villains in the movie.


Jo

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Very interesting ( almost emotional) comments from XMen film fans on the SuperHeroHype forum --

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Default Re: Wolverine 3 - news & discussion

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins View Post

That works for X-force but not for X-men films since they are set in past
what do they about Wolverine In X-men films.They eather create more
contunity errors by dropping Wolverine entirely from films which creates
problems with DOFP/Wolverine solo film/X-force since plan seems to be for them to be connected or recast.

I hope this film doesn't become more about introducing X-23.

But i can see them now doing a funeral for Wolverine at end with rogue and jean cameos.which may be why Mangold chooce to respond to people asking about them In this film.

Well, the continuity of the series matters not to me after Jackman hangs up the claws. After APOCALYPSE which pretty much sets up the team we saw in 2023 at the end of DAYS OF FUTURE PAST and WOLVERINE 3, I'm done with X-Men on film. Not saying that the new stuff won't be better or more accurate to the hardcore fans but this has been my series from the get go...all the way back in 2000. For me, with Jackman being done, it's a nice place to stop after WOLVERINE 3.

If they do a hard reset/reboot of X in a decade or so, I might peak at the new stuff but I doubt it. Jackman's been my anchor. The idea of seeing a new Wolverine on screen not named Jackman doesn't compute for me.

It's emotional thing. So, continuity won't matter to me after WOLVERINE 3.