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Post by jo on Jan 4, 2018 17:53:18 GMT -5
Mangold is the creative heart of that screenplay! Although, I do remember Hugh talking about how the idea of the basis for the storyline came to him after he has been thinking about it and which he recorded immediately...and obviously shared with Mangold. There were also some interesting insights on how changes were occurring while they were already filming ( including the finale - whether Logan should die or not! Even the intention of whether the finale lines from Logan ( "So this is how it feels.") were meant to convey that he was at peace now or that he finally knew how it was to be a father was a very interesting scene. Mangold said that the way Hugh acted it out left it to both interpretations -- excellent collaborative effort between screenwriter, director, and actor!
Also, not only did the character of Logan have interesting nuances ( his aging and dying self, his attitude as a potential father, his caring regard for his mentor, his nemesis who was also himself but representing the dark side of Wolverine, and the fighting Wolverine unleashed)... but care was also written for the characters of Prof X and that of Laura ( X-23). Very strong interactions among the three!
The western frame of the storyline enhanced the interest in the film very much, making it look more interesting than the typical superhero movie.
Hope the AMPAS follows suit and reward LOGAN for a number of things such as for Best Adapted Screenplay and including Best Picture contender and acting honors!
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Post by jo on Jan 4, 2018 19:40:36 GMT -5
Pardon my bias, but -- Sometimes the movie press ( in this case, in an article written by a woman as suggested by the first name) can't help show its bias -- why say that it was Wonder Woman which accomplished more than LOGAN, when it is not about social justice issues during awards season. The rationale and only rationale should be the artistic excellence of a movie ( whether it is the storyline, the work of the creatives, and how the cast has portrayed their characters). A guild award is oftentimes the true arbiter of such correct choices! Not because a popular issue such as gender equality means more than filmmaking accomplishment. www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/writers-guild-awards-nominationsExcerpts -- For the record, LOGAN obtained the highest aggregated critics ratings on Rotten Tomatoes among superhero movies in 2017! Also, the writer did not do some fact-checking, saying LOGAN was released in May. LOGAN was not released during the summer season ( when superhero blockbusters show their wares) but on March 3, 2017 ( sometimes a difficult physical time of the year for releasing movies) Jo
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Post by jo on Jan 4, 2018 21:01:31 GMT -5
A major film site specializing in superhero movies gives HUGH JACKMAN the best and most deserved chance to win an Oscar nomination for his work in LOGAN. www.cbr.com/superhero-actors-of-2017-ranked/The work of Patrick Stewart (6th) and Dafne Keen (5th) are also ranked among the top ten portrayals in comicbook film adaptations! I am surprised the work of this trio did not get an SAG nod for Best Ensemble! Instead the SAG gave it to the Stuntmen ( Best Stuntmen Ensemble) -- couldn't they recognize how strong and mesmerizing the performances of this acting trio?
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 8:50:01 GMT -5
Congratulations to LOGAN for its Oscar nomination for Best Adapted Screenplay!
This, to me, is already a major recognition that LOGAN rose beyond the usual storytelling for action/superhero movies -- by presenting a storyline and character development that speaks well of its quality and filmmaking beauty in an award-community that seems to like only certain types of films! It is a departure from all the others -- and the company it keeps among nominees can attest to that! It was a harder journey to make to get that artistic recognition!
Btw, this is the first time that a comicbook movie has received a nomination for SCREENPLAY honors. Not even The Dark Knight reached that kind of honor!
Again, CONGRATULATIONS to the script-writing team (led by James Mangold) of LOGAN!
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 9:36:30 GMT -5
This is the competition --
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 10:02:30 GMT -5
Hugh is also very pleased --
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -5
There were only 9 nominations for BEST PICTURE. Why couldn't LOGAN have been given the 10th slot It deserves a place in that most important category! Its critics's ratings are superb, its audience support shines, and even the artistic community ( the Writers Guild nomination) recognized its value as an important movie for 2017! The Oscars will always be political, sad to say! Some best picture nods are simply out of habit while some are nods to social justice issues. Sad when the artistic side is the less-recognized aspect of an art form like film-making!
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 23, 2018 13:29:27 GMT -5
LOGAN definitely deserved a Best Picture slot. Hugh served a Best Actor nod, too. His gut-wrenching performance is the heart of the movie and sets it apart from any superhero movie ever made. I saw PHANTOM THREAD. DDL is ok but the slyest perf in that film is by Lesley Manville, who deserves her nomination.
And if I can be politically incirrect here, why is a nomination virtually assured for Denzel Washington, no matter the film? Another impassioned lawyer movie—really? What does that add to the canon? I enjoyed GET OUT—but as satisfying as Kaluuya’s and the other performances are, they are not the shining feature of the movie; rather the very deserved nods for writing and directing this clever social satire and new take on a horror film. I can envision many good actors in Kaluuya’s role; not so the case with LOGAN.
These are just my opinions, of course and therefore subjective. But I do think AMPAS, in a laudable move to correct past wrongs, has overcorrected itself to the detriment of recognizing truly exceptional achievements.
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Post by carouselkathy on Jan 23, 2018 13:58:23 GMT -5
I understand that nominations require a certain number of votes. For example, acting requires 203 votes. I'm sure Hugh came close. I'm still mad that Myrna Loy never got nominated. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES was her masterpiece, and no nomination.
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Post by mamaleh on Jan 23, 2018 14:56:39 GMT -5
Wow, I didn’t realize Myrna Loy was overlooked. Didn’t that movie receive seven Oscars? Seems like a deliberate snub not to include Loy, “the perfect wife,” among the nominees. Winner Olivia deHavilland must have had some strong political pull.
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 15:20:42 GMT -5
James Mangold acknowledges Hugh's role in the artistic success of LOGAN --
His nod to Hugh's contribution in the film is very touching.
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 15:25:54 GMT -5
And the trade paper VARIETY recognizes the signal honor that LOGAN has given to the genre --
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Post by jo on Jan 23, 2018 16:00:51 GMT -5
Cinemablend speak strongly for a LOGAN Oscar win!
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