LOGAN ( Spoiler Alert)

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Teaser to the trailer --

http://instagram.com/p/BLwcBhBj2GU

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“Nature made me a freak, man made me a weapon, and God made it last too long.”

The saga of Wolverine, aka Logan, in a few choice words!




PS : I wonder when Hugh made the voiceover work? It must have been only recently -- the film wrapped mid-August and Mangold has been at the Edit suite since then. Presumably the marketing campaign was put together on solid footing only after JM edited the assembled film scenes and came up with his first pass of the director's cut. The promotional campaign was unveiled only recently, right around Hugh's birthday. Did the team of Mangold, Jackman, and the presumably newly re-organized marketing team at FOX then come up with an important teaser ( see above ), right around when Hugh was recently in LA -- at the MPTF event or even later at an undisclosed time, that can fully encapsulate the message of LOGAN, even before the first trailer appears!


Questions fans are asking --

*Is the movie going to retain the atmospheric and stark look of the initial marketing images released - a superhero movie in black and white?? Or is the teaser ( in black and white, too) simply the end-punctuation for the first burst of images from the movie ( using the modern means to communicate - Instagram, twitter, YouTube, etc.) supported by analyses and speculations from film sites. Some fans seem to think a black-and-white feature film will be a rare and effective way to tell Wolverine's final tale...but also hope that a real-life color palette will appear on screen or at very least in a bluRay/DVD edition

My guess -- there might be some scenes in black and white...and then the story will be told in color ( how else can gore be more effectively presented ?) . We'll see.



The tone of the movie seems to be that of a film noir -- is it destined to be a classic??

*Is it the Western tone that seems to be contributing to that perception? Some fans think the images and the teaser evoke Clint Eastwood's acclaimed UNFORGIVEN. Mangold has publicly said that he likes the vibe that came from the look of classic westerns ( he did direct the much-praised "3:10 to Yuma") and has even said recently that he wants to do another "pure" western. This is so far from his first collaboration with Hugh in KATE AND LEOPOLD ( hey, weren't there some black and white scenes there?).

*Will Wolverine pass on the torch...to the young hand which clings to his wounded hand with the claws extended??

*What kind of storyline and film images will result in an R-rating. It won't have the cheekiness of Deadpool ( far from it!) but will likely be a very realistic look at the lonely and violent life this mutant has lived.

*He looks like Old Man Logan...but the vibe from the marketing is beginning to sound like the end of Wolverine, in more ways than one? Will we see him die??!!!


*One fan even wistfully sent this message : " And the next Oscar winner is...". Why ever not ??!!




Just some rambling thoughts.



I am beginning to feel that this will be no ordinary tale...and I will not be surprised that at the end of the movie, people will be very sad to say goodbye to Wolverine, too!



Jo

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From Marysue.com --

Since Wolverine’s healing factor has been compromised–although how Logan plans to tell that story remains to be seen–he can now get scars and age, albeit at a slower rate than the average person. That means that Hugh Jackman, who is a human being and not a mutant (as far as we know), will finally get to show his years in this movie. Well, his years and then some! Jackman is 48, and for once, it looks as though he’ll need to look older, as opposed to younger, in order to play the role of Wolverine.

The movie’s director, James Mangold, has been tweeting photos of the movie’s cast for a while now, and today he shared a stunning photo of Hugh Jackman’s haunting, scarred appearance in Logan:

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Don't look now as the video clip might be a leak of the trailer to be unveiled October 20...you may want to see the trailer in its best light -- not a bootlegged version. Those who can't wait - well

I am not even sure if this is the real trailer -- although the scenes look real...so, at your own risk




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www.facebook.com/MovieFilms/videos/1214580098611417/

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Not meant to entice... but just to get a whiff of initial reactions, even to a badly-made bootleg version of the trailer --

Shaan Khan
‏@khanimus
Ummm that leaked trailer for Logan looks ASTONISHINGLY good. Looks like the perfect film for Hugh Jackman to part ways with Wolverine...

8:26 PM - 19 Oct 2016

And from the feedback section of the upload of the song accompanying the trailer --

Rod Rigo38 minutes ago
Logan, anyone?
Reply 12



jack jackson24 minutes ago
Rod Rigo I am in deep tears...

From IMDB -- from someone who saw the leaked trailer --

by alexanderthekaiser » 1 hour ago (Wed Oct 19 2016 20:35:57)
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IMDb member since November 2011
The trailer was fantastic in every way, shape or form. It chose a great song for its trailer, it nailed a feeling of despair with a slight bit of hope, they are taking their franchise and character more seriously and you do see a lot of care and passion on this one...

*beep* awesome trailer. I can't wait to see the full movie.

IsaiahCuz ‏@cuzzisaiah 6m
6 minutes ago

Johnny Cash's ''Hurt'' basically speaks about the life of Logan.
#Logan #HughJackman

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If you peeked and was trying to place the song ( which does give the movie a western vibe), it is Johnny Cash's HURT. I checked out one version on YouTube and it has an astonishing 25 million hits.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

But there is another upload which focuses on the lyrics --

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffFaJSDv9g

The tempo, the melody, the lyrics , the overall melancholia -- they do seem to all fit in! Bravo, Mangold and company!

Also, people have already started identifying it ( through the feedback section) as one of the musical themes for LOGAN! Lol - one already warned : "Here come the XMen fans!"

Btw, Mangold directed the biopic on Johnny Cash called WALK THE LINE.


Will the Johnny Cash's song be used only for the trailer, to give it an emotionally-appealing vibe?


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Jo

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One website has already posted the leaked trailer --

www.gamezone.com/news/watch-the-trailer-for-the-new-wolverine-film-logan-has-leaked-and-it-is-breathtaking-3444520

The trailer for the new Wolverine film, Logan, has leaked and it is breathtaking.
Very dark and grim.

EDIT : The video has now been taken down, as expected



The earlier link, on another post here, has remained undetected

If you still want a sneak peek!

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Hugh has uploaded the trailer.


twitter.com/RealHughJackman/media




www.facebook.com/HughJackman

http://instagram.com/p/BLySIvOj5Pk

The official trailer on HD --


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Div0iP65aZo



It looks like it is the GREEN BAND trailer (more family-friendly).

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The RED BAND TRAILER has been released for the international market. It is just one scene ( around 1'27"/1'28" ) -- gulp --but that's a perfect scene to elicit an R rating!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFP0V6n7aY

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#LOGAN is now trending according to Twitter's Worldwide Trends!

It's been pretty exhausting trying to keep up with all the online reactions ( filmsites, entertainment sites, social media ) and reading as much of feedback reactions as I could. I do need a course in speed-reading



But it has been exhilarating because --

*Overall reaction is very positive ( even from the usual cynical fanboys and fanboy sites). "Awesome!" and " Incredible" are the words of choice! But I have seen the word "tearful" or "teary-eyed" often, to describe the reactions.

*The Red Band trailer upped the interest even more...but not in a forced way at all.

*People say the vibe is very sad but this is very refreshing because this could be the first comicbook movie that has the hallmark of an excellent drama with meaningful characterizations. It connotes drama and realism, and is as far away from the usual CGI blockbusters of explosions and world destruction as possible...that this director is showing us a film, not a movie!

*It is earning compliments -- one even dared to hope that this could be the first Oscar-bait comicbook movie! It has also been tagged as "the indie" ( aka arthouse) comicbook movie.

*Every few messages carry the " I couldn't help it -- I cried!" revelation - even from and maybe not surprisingly from fanboys! It is not just this seemingly poignant ending to the Wolverine saga but fans are truly sad about Hugh's departure as the film Wolverine!

*Some say that this is a more realistic depiction of Wolverine/Logan -- normal hairstyle, more grizzled, less muscular than the exaggerated images of past movies, tortured, but still badass!

*But some point out that the relationship among the three ( Logan, the ailing Charles, and Laura) have their generally sad but also occasional happy moments - so it will not all be depressing. People are taken by that shot of Logan sleeping on Laura's lap...as well as the shot of Logan carrying the ailing Prof X to bed! Logan and Prof X will always be the best of friends, in a mentor and almost-son relationship!

*There is universal attraction for the suitability of the the trailer music - how it was the perfect accompaninment to the unfolding final story of Logan!

*Overall, I keep reading that this movie has HEART!



Of course this is only the trailer! Will the movie truly depict the excellent points from the trailer?

Hey, the movie could even be much better


Jo

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Some other observations --

It is not in black and white ...but have you noticed that the color palette is subdued, almost neutral. Mostly earth colors with the exception of the blue sky and hints of blue in the costumes. And except of course the prominence of the RED color of gore!

I wonder why they opted for Hugh to wear a wig -- he could have just had his own hair, liberally streaked with artificial grey. Of course we haven't seen the movie -- maybe there are other time segments in the storyline where what we had seen as his close-cropped hair might figure out ?

People ask why the budget is fairly large ( $ 127 million after tax credits) when it seems to contain more human drama than actual major scenes identified with action movies, especially for comicbook movies? Again, we have not seen the entire movie yet and many other things could be in store?

Other than Laura, is there no other prominent female roles in the plot? No romantic interest for Logan? Of course Hugh has always been excellent acting out the role of Dad or surrogate Dad to kids.

Btw, I think the movie will appeal not only to regular comicbook movie fans but it could also appeal to the female demos strongly because of the dramatic slant of the film.


Jo

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Suddenly you're here...

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Aren't major cast and creative team announcements made at the end of each trailer? I remember that from past movies I have seen of Hugh and where I definitely looked at trailers a number of times?

Where is the casting announcement on this first trailer?

What...or...who ... are they hiding


Jo

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In case the scenes went too fast, here are excellent photo stills from the trailer --

screenrant.com/logan-trailer-stills-high-res/?utm_source=SR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-TW&view=list

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This EMPIRE interview is very insightful, even if James Mangold does not disclose some details deliberately. But it explains his cinematic vision and approach to this unusual slice of the saga of Wolverine ( aka Logan). It is broken up into segments that raise particular points from very curious fans.

www.empireonline.com/movies/features/logan-trailer-breakdown-james-mangold-talks-us-first-teaser/

He was never asked why they chose to call this film LOGAN - it seems they are very deliberate in their choices...and this would have been very revelatory.

Logan trailer breakdown: James
Mangold talks us through the teaser



Helen O'hara
20 Oct 2016 14:21
Last updated: 20 Oct 2016 15:04




The first trailer debuted today for James Mangold’s Logan, the third solo outing for the X-Men’s most popular cinematic character and the final appearance (we’re told) of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Since this promises a very different take on the character, we called James Mangold and asked him to talk us through his approach as he locks the edit and continues work on the film’s score, sound and effects. Here’s what he had to say – with some wild speculation from us…

Hurt


As the trailer begins, you’ll hear the instantly-recognisable strains of Johnny Cash’s cover of Nine Inch Nails’ Hurt. Mangold, of course, directed the Cash biopic Walk The Line, so he has form. But why use it here? “Obviously I have a connection and a fondness for Johnny Cash, and his tone and his message and his music. But the real driver in all these decisions is trying to separate ourselves, in an accurate way, from the other superhero movies. We think we’re going to deliver something a little different and we want to make sure we’re selling audiences on the difference. Sometimes even when a movie’s a little different, the studio’s trying to market the movie just like all the others. [Cash’s] music, in a way, separates us from the standard, bombastic, brooding orchestral, swish-bang, doors opening and slamming, explosions kind of methodology of some of these movies.”

A new hope


“Hugh and I have been talking about what we would do since we were working on the last one, and for both of us it was this requirement that, to be even interested in doing it, we had to free ourselves from some assumptions that had existed in the past, and be able to change the tone a bit. Not merely to change for change’s sake, but also to make something that’s speaking to the culture now, that’s not just the same style — how many times can they save the world in one way or another? How can we construct a story that’s built more on character and character issues, in a way as if it almost wasn’t a superhero movie, yet it features their powers and struggles and themes?”

Death at a funeral

Mangold won’t say whose funeral this is. Logan’s leaning against a tree and drinking; it’s reminiscent of quite a few comic-book funerals, where one character broods in the foreground while the ceremony takes place further off. “I don’t so much think about comic-book framings but I think about film noir framings and classic Hollywood filmmaking styles, German expressionist filmmaking style of the early part of the last century, which has a lot in common with comic-book art. Strong foregrounds, playing things in depth: you have to make an image say more within that one image. In modern filmmaking everything’s in close-up, so every scene there’s 150 cuts to keep track of what’s going on with every element. I’m trying on this film to set frames that are, in some way, descriptive and yes, are kind of evocative of comic-book panels and also for me classical filmmaking.”

Scar chase

How come Logan, he of the unparalleled healing factor and stunning powers of regeneration, has shaking hands and a back covered in scars? Turns out that’s the way Mangold wants it. “One of the things we all thought about as we worked on this film is, well, we don’t want to rebuild everything. We want to have some questions. In order to make a different Logan, and a different tone of a Wolverine movie, we felt like we couldn’t hold on to every tradition established in all the movies religiously, or we’d be trapped by the decisions made before us. So we questioned whether Logan’s healing factor causes him to heal without even a scar. We imagined that it may have when he was younger, but with age, he’s getting older and ailing. Perhaps his healing factor no longer produces baby-soft skin. So we imagined he heals quickly, still, but it leaves a scar. The simple idea was that his body would start to get a little more ravaged with a kind of tattooing of past battles, lacerations that remain of previous conflicts.”

X marks the liver spots

“We are in the future, we have passed the point of the epilogue of Days Of Future Past,” is all that Mangold will admit about the timing of this film. But clearly a good couple of decades have reduced Patrick Stewart's Charles Xavier to a shadow of his former self, with the effects of ageing evident on his face. “We’re finding all these characters in circumstances that are a little more real. The questions of ageing, of loneliness, of where I belong. Am I still useful to the world? I saw it as an opportunity. We’ve seen these characters in action, saving the universe. But what happens when you’re in retirement and that career is over? The really interesting thing to me, or a place to dig that hadn’t been dug, was the idea of mutants when they’re no longer useful to the world, or even sure if they can do what they used to do. Their powers are diminished like all of ours are by age.”

Mysterious girl

At this picture, Mangold clams up completely. “I think I will just let speculation run rampant about that. I think what this film is about in many ways is family. From there out I’d let everyone figure out what we’re up to on their own, at least at this early stage.” We do know that that’s actress Dafne Keane, but her character name — and in particular the question of whether she’s Laura/X23, the female clone of Logan who’s been rumoured for an appearance in this film, is completely open at this point. “I’m not here today to confirm or deny anything. I think it’s great that everyone’s speculating and I think it reveals how smart the audience is, many of the fans, about these characters. I don’t think they’re on the wrong track.”

Pierced through the heart

Similarly, Mangold won’t confirm whether Boyd Holbrook here is playing, as rumoured, the mutant-hating cyborg Donald Pierce – though the metal hand certainly doesn’t rule that out. But what led him to cast Holbrook in particular? “He’s a fabulous actor. He’s also, to me, in terms of playing an antagonist, he’s got humour.”

The man with no name?

There’s a shot of Stephen Merchant’s character on James Mangold’s Twitter feed, and his bald pate and lily-white skin suggest that he’s the Morlock mutant Caliban, who also appeared played by Tómas Lemarquis in this summer’s X-Men: Apocalypse. If we were guessing, we’d say that this heavily-wrapped figure is also Caliban, who grew up underground and doesn’t do well in sunshine. “I’m always interested to find the thing that looks most interesting on the actors. Stephen is a huge man. One of the things that is so wonderful filming with him for a character like this is that he’s a good six inches taller than Logan, and huge over Patrick. The little kid in the movie would come up to basically his knee. So there’s a wonderful sense of scale – but he has heart too. So that was a wonderful energy to enter the movie, and someone who instead of turning things into their own energy kind of joined ours.”

Asleep at the wheel

This unusually vulnerable vignette suggests the human relationships that Mangold has alluded to. “I think this movie is about family, and sticking together, and about making connections in a world in which our characters might feel very alone.” But he still isn’t giving anything away about Keane’s character.

Chinny reckon?

This is a startling moment of violence in the film, which hints again at a different tone than we’ve seen before. “ [This represents] to me the kind of aggressive, classical Wolverine action that we want in the movie – more of something that fans have been asking for, for a really long time. We’ve been limited in one way or another from giving it to them, but I think we’ve got the go-ahead to really go for it on this picture. So we’re really trying to deliver what folks have always imagined those kind of battles would look like. There is a lot of high-octane action in the movie. We’re just trying to do it very differently and very viscerally.”

A grave man

Finally, another intriguing shot, which suggests that that funeral at the beginning of the trailer may not be our own brush with mortality. Logan and his young companion both look sombre, and he’s holding what appears to be a shovel. Is he digging a grave? “I don’t know what’s in his hand,” claims Mangold. “It could be a walking stick.” We’re pretty sure that is not a walking stick.


Logan is out on 3 March, 2017. Watch the first trailer here.

[jo]

There's one scene showing Logan carrying Prof X to his bed --

now this makes sense

Patrick Stewart was interviewed via Twitter for another project, but he also shared something else --

Patrick Stewart
Verified account
‏@sirpatstew
Patrick Stewart Retweeted Spooky Pam
I can't spoil what it is in @blunttalk_STARZ. But in another project, I loved having @realhughjackman's manly arms wrapped around me.


Patrick Stewart added,

Spooky Pam @ravenclawtears
@sirpatstew #AskSirPatStew What was your favorite scene to film this season?? Did any funny moments occur off camera?

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There was some clamor for a Black and White color palette, after the initial marketing images which had a film noir feel about them. There have also been requests to James Mangold to release a special black-and-white cut as a special feature when the BluRay/DVD is released.


This was done by a fan who stripped the original trailer to a Black and White version.

Sometimes, fanboys amaze me in a startling but very good way!





Jo

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James Mangold responds to a fan's comments/inquiry --

liam quane ‏@moviemaster1993 5h
5 hours ago
Hi Mr. @mang0ld! If I may ask; how much control did you have over the trailers? They are so artistically put together. Very sharp. <pun) :~)


liam quane ‏@moviemaster1993 10h
10 hours ago
And now for the excitement: Ahem...#LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN #LOGAN :~DDD



liam quane ‏@moviemaster1993 10h
10 hours ago
Hi Mr. @mang0ld! Just want to say congrats! #LOGAN looks Like emotional artwork. The music choice was inspired. #WildWestLogan :~)

In reply to liam quane
Mangold ‏@mang0ld 4h
4 hours ago

@moviemaster1993 Fox marketing and I worked very closely on it. Shot by shot. They were great with me.

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Look at this -- from a post on the SuperHeroHype forum:

JP
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 59,201

Re: Logan - news & discussion - Part 1

Trailer seems to have a pretty huge impact. Hurt is #30 on iTunes.

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Hugh Jackman ‏@realhughjackman 4h
4 hours ago

Hugh Jackman Retweeted Ryan Reynolds
Really ... All out of options?


Hugh Jackman added,

Ryan Reynolds @vancityreynolds
Inject this film directly into my face immediately.

…

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The trailer is beginning to inspire some artistic efforts --





And how about this --

BennyWatts ‏@bennywatts 3h
3 hours ago

Le misérable Logan - Logan's Soliloquy #Logan #LoganMusical #LoganValjean @realhughjackman

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Did you try to sing Logan's Soliloquy


All the responses on the internet are overwhelming! As one tweeter said : "Hugh, you won the internet today!"


One of the fanboy sites ( it used to be the site), AIN'T IT COOL NEWS, can sometimes have very annoying comments on their feedback section... But this time, their discussions and humor are enjoyable to read ( including a joke about Jackman being on a role) ...Since yesterday, there have been 530 comments

www.aintitcool.com/node/76548?utm_source=full-feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_term=coolnews&utm_campaign=1310_RSS


In a more serious tone, one talked about how good the Logan and Charles relationship has been portrayed...and that people are really sorry to see them go, after this movie. Someone predicted that the X-23 alternative will not work out ( as have other superheroine portrayals not worked out- somewhat chauvinistic comment and not politically correct... but truthfully pragmatic -- women do not really make excellent superheroines in comic book movies) -- so he predicted that 5 years from now, they will offer Hugh Jackman $ 50 million and Patrick Stewart $ 20 million to make another "last" XMen movie, focusing once again on Wolverine!

Wishful thinking ?? Maybe


Jo

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A clip by clip analysis of the trailer --

www.slashfilm.com/logan-trailer-breakdown/3/

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Could Hugh sing HURT as part of the credits? I think the song would suit his vocal range -- because he can also sing in deeper baritone ( my favorite song from The Boy from Oz is the THE LIVES OF ME). That would make the song HURT even more personal for the movie itself.

Just a thought

Jo